Possible Calorie Intake Of Such A Creature...

[lookoutman7]

This is one of those puzzling things that I've thought
about concerning this biped.

Although we don't know or yet understand the
structural characteristics of the Sasquatch stomach,
I have still wondered what it would take to sustain
such a creature on the nutritional level. Has there
been a composition done on the possibilities? Such
as how many calories roughly, it would take daily?

lookoutman.

[Deleted]

Good question! I guess we will never know untill we can explore the stomach ourselves.

JVD

[sebastian]

There is a way to calculate minimum caloric intake based on body size. Dr. W. Henner Fahrenbach suggested:
"The weight of an aninmal can be used to predict its basal metabolic rate, meaning its minimal daily caloric requirement, by a mathematical relationship (Kleiber's Law), that is an extremely tight one. Application of this rule suggests 5,000 calories for the average sasquatch (as defined by the statistics). With exercise and inclement whether this value can be double or triple.
Hence, a diet that is minimally omnivorous, if not slanted toward carnivory is required to fulfill that demand." (Fahrenbach, W. Henner. 2000 "Sasquatch: Size, Scaling and Statistics." in Cryptozoology, Vol 13, pgs. 47-75.
cheers,
seb

[lookoutman7]

Thanks for the info, Seb-

I'm hearing somewhere in the area of 16 thousand
cals a day. Depends on uphill, downhill, temps,
sickness,hunting,traveling - and you name it.

Trying to look at supply and food lines in areas to
sustain these types of numbers, or anything even
close. Most times - isn't Sasquatch seen doing other
things rather than nourishing itself? Must need some
big ticket items to quench food needs.

Thanks

Glen

[thomassteenburg]

Gorillas are almost continually eating all their waking hours so as to maintain them selves in their environment. Gorillas are vegetarians only though while chimps are omnivores and are not always eating to maintain themselves. If the sasquatch has meat intake in it's diet and all evidence seems to suggest they do. Than continuous eating is not required.

[sebastian]

I think that if the sasquatch also take salmon as a part of their diet, they don't really need to eat all day. I read somewhere, was it in Green's ? or Bob Titmus?, that once a pile of dropping was found (in winter) and lot of pine needles in it. High sugar content in pine needles may also keep sasquatch active in the winter months(?).
The only thing is that I wonder if certain prey species are actually confined to regional. The westcoast's populations take salmon and the mid-east ones hunt deer more often(?). We really don't have much evidence here to suggest that sasquatch hunt deer, what do you think , Thomas?
cheers,
seb

[thomassteenburg]

Hunting deer in the eastern part of the province certainly would make sense, and there have been reports of sasquatch killing deer? Some though sound questionable for other reasons. They also have been reported stealing deer that has just been shot by hunters. The creature does not seem to have natural hunting and killing features, (Claws and Fangs}, however they are certainly strong and agile enough. I certainly cannot think of any reason sasquatch would not hunt deer, unless of course they are strictly vegetarian? I don't think they hunt all the time, if they did we would have ranchers in the Alberta rockies complaining of lost cattle and other things??
Thomas

[sebastian]

Hate to do this, but the best way to speculate sasquatch diet is to compare it with the grizzlies' to a certain degree. There are many reports in the past indicating foraging and hunting(?) behaviour. If one can trust those reports, certainly sasquatch are omnivorous.
cheers,
seb

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panleoatrox said:

Hate to do this, but the best way to speculate sasquatch diet is to compare it with the grizzlies' to a certain degree. There are many reports in the past indicating foraging and hunting(?) behaviour. If one can trust those reports, certainly sasquatch are omnivorous.
cheers,
seb

Bang on there my good man, Sebastian!

If there's enough grub growing, running, flying and swimming out in the wilds of BC to sustain 800 to 1000 pound grizzly bears, there plenty viddles for old Sasquatch too.

Bears, man and Sasquatch can get good and fat living off the land in our neck of the woods. It's simply a matter of knowing where and when to find those food sources, then remembering those sources.

Bushman

[lookoutman7]

The Sasquatch has lived out in the wild for hundreds
of years - what's another Summer & Winter.

I'm sure they don't starve - but Winter could be a
challenge for them. They could be more at risk of
being tracked in the Winter of course. The Summer
months - they may need more nourishment to keep
up the calories. It would be interesting to see if they
slow in the Winter? Being realistic, I think their
make-up is like some others in the forest - nothing
out of the ordinary. We might be surprised at how
simple their needs may be.

[Deleted]

What would a hairy Sasquatch that does not use fire need to survive the harsh winters in our neck of the woods?

If a Sasquatch found a well hidden hole in the ground, a cozy cave or it tucked up and under a rock overhang and used dried grasses or mosses for insulation and bedding, it could probably do quite well on foods it gathered and stashed in the summer when the getting was good.

Here are a few things Albert Ostman had to say about Sasquatch:

On my way back I noticed where these people were sleeping. On the east side wall of this valley was a shelf in the mountain side, with overhanging rock, looking something like a big undercut in a big tree about 10 feet deep and 30 feet wide. The floor was covered with lots of dry moss, and they had some kind of blankets woven of narrow strips of cedar bark, packed with dry moss. They looked very practical and warm — with no need of washing.

I don't think this valley was their permanent home. I think they move from place to place, as food is available in different localities. They might eat meat, but I never saw them eat meat, or do any cooking.

I think this was probably a stopover place and the plants with sweet roots on the mountain side might have been in season this time of the year. They seem to be most interested in them. The roots have a very sweet and satisfying taste. They always seem to do everything for a reason, wasted no time on anything they did not need. When they were not looking for food, the old man and the old lady were resting, but the boy and the girl were always climbing something or some other exercise.

The following day I did not see the old lady till about 4:00 p.m. She came home with her arms full of grass and twigs and of all kinds of spruce and hemlock as well as some kind of nuts that grow in the ground. I have seen lots of them on Vancouver Island.

This report came from north west of Campbell River by Mike King in 1904:

Mike King, a well-known timber cruiser, came upon a Sasquatch crouching next to a creek, washing piles of grass roots.

This one was sent to me by Ron Murdock and should be of particular interest to you Lookoutman7:

Dietary habits of the Sasquatch have been compared to the black bear. Indications are that Sasquatch is omnivorous with a diet ranging from grass and leaves to large animals. From scat analysis, it has been determined that grains, wild fruit seeds, salmon, rabbits and deer make up a good part of Sasquatch eating habits. Like some other wild animals, domestic fruit and vegetables at time tempt Sasquatch. Near Alpine, California, a Sasquatch was seen eating apples from in front of a house. Many of the trees were stripped of their fruit higher than a man could reach. Sasquatch tracks were found in the area the next day. On a Arizona race, a girl and her mother watched a seven foot tall Sasquatch, with an armload of corn, pulling up turnips in their vegetable garden. They continued to observe it as it ran through a wheat field then jumped a garbage rail fence, carrying the corn and turnips. There have been reports that Sasquatches have developed a garbage habit. In the Trinity River of northern California, spring of 1966, a Sasquatch was seen raiding a trashcan one night. Another night at 2 a.m., the same Sasquatch dumped out another trash can and took some eggs and raw bacon left out for it. Occasionally Sasquatches have been observed examining tents and campfire areas. This activity appears to have been motivated more by curiosity than by hunger. However work camps have had food supplies such as salty pancake flour, canned meat, bacon and candy taken. On the nights these thefts have occurred a sulphur odor, strange wailings and other mysterious sounds were heard. At daylight, two very large Sasquatch tracks were found. These tracks were measured at eighteen and three quarters inches long, nine inches across the ball and five inches across the heel.

John Green reported this one in 1968:

One of the most revealing Sasquatch sightings reported took place in the Oregon Cascades in 1967. A logger described the activities of what he thought was a family of three Sasquatches (two adults and an infant) as they searched for hibernating rodents on a rocky ridge, digging up rocks and piling them up, finding nests of rodents, and eating them on the spot.

A neighbor of mine down the street watched a Sasquatch step over a fence in an old abandoned orchard and make its way up to an apple tree where it proceeded to pick a big armful of apples. It then turned around and headed back to the bush the same way it had come from.

Clayton Mack described watching a Sasquatch picking and eating the small white ends of "sweet grass" in his book Grizzlies and White Guys.

I believe Thomas Steenburg has a report from Squamish of a Sasquatch seen crossing the road while holding a salmon in its hand.

And many reports of Sasquatch seen digging and piling clams from coastal BC.

Edited to add: I have also run across two reports of Sasquatch having been seen carrying dead ducks. The "Track Record" has an interesting account of a trapper having run across a very narrow spot along a well used game trail north of Prince George where he suspected a Sasquatch would ambush deer and moose by dropping on the unsuspecting animals from above. Seems the trapper suspected the Sasquatch would drop on to the backs of its prey from high above, straddle the frantic animals' backs until they became tired and then eventually kill them by breaking their necks.

I believe that if you try and "think like a Sasquatch" keyed in on survival, it's not hard to imagine any of the above scenarios.

Bushman

[lookoutman7]

Makes sense, Ken...

It's obvious they're getting what they need - when
they need it.

I've recently been studying the common 'ant.' It's
amazing, what they can do, and what's been given
them from Mother Nature. Everthing has a pattern to
it - most things we can't see. Of course, Sasquatch,
has traits that help them as well. If the average
person knows little about the ant - we'll you know
where I'm going - you and I have discussed this.
We need to get on the inside so to speak - ahead
of the beast.

[Deleted]

I wholeheartedly agree, Glen.
Somehow we have to carefully formulate a working plan that has the remote possibility to put us one step ahead of Sasquatch while it makes its rounds to its food sources.
Now, if we could only get the ball rolling and begin to identify at least some of Sasquatch's key food sources.

Bushman

[lookoutman7]

Ken-

I think you were on to one of the favorite sources
of food for the creature, in your area - the salmon
run.

It's just a matter of where they feed from, and
how often the animal will come for the treat.
(Remember the seals in Harrison Lake - they were
waiting.) Everything in it's pattern. All of us have
to break into the Sasquatch idea of it - which so
many are trying.

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Mr steenburg i do agree from with your statment on strength and agility. The Unknown ape here is strong enough to swat down a deer with extreme ease.

As for caloric intake. I am a solid 270 pound body builder. While in the military training at altitude in cold weather eating a 4000 calorie a day diet( designed for the average 150 pound man at altitude and cold weather) i lost 20 pounds in a month, Even if half is waterweight loseing 10 pounds in a month is rapid fat and muscle loss.. Since the Unknown primate is much larger My guess males in the 1,000 plus pounds I think we have to get int the 10,000 calore range if it is high up.