New BBC 3-part series

[Richard]

Hi gang,
I just came across a BBC4 3-part series on the Yeti, Sasquatch and Almasty.
Create series and well worth the watch!
Basically centers around DNA analysis (this time done properly) of supposed samples.
I do t want to spoil it for anyone, but I do have a copy for anyone without access to it.
R

[Gerry]

Forgive me, Richard.
But with all due respect... how can any DNA sample be done properly?

In order for a positive identification to be carried out, you..first..need a 'proven' sample of such a creature.

This has never been done to this date.
So, Your remark leaves me a bit 'flummoxed'!!

[sawone]

Gerry, I'll play the "devil's advocate" here, and argue that a properly done test could determine that a sample is very close to human/ape/chimp/orang, but just different enough to be a new "unknown" species. That wouldn't prove sasquatch exists, but it would sure get the scientific community's interest up.

Brad

Richardt, where is BBC4 aired; I can't find a listing for it on Shaw cable?

[billr]

Gerry
I believe this is the series based on the Sykes studies and it has already had some great results
It has identified many samples to be from ordinary known animals plus one sample as fiberglass

And two Yeti samples (1 collected 10 years ago and 1 collected 40 years ago) were 100% genetic match to a 40,000 year old jaw bone from a grizzly/polar bear species thought to be extinct for thousands of years

[billr]

Brad
Bigfoot Files was on YouTube for a while
It also showed that Zana was of sub Sahara descent and not neanderthal

[Richard]

Nov 24, 2013 0:11:36 GMT -5 Gerry said:

Forgive me, Richard.
But with all due respect... how can any DNA sample be done properly?

In order for a positive identification to be carried out, you..first..need a 'proven' sample of such a creature.

This has never been done to this date.
So, Your remark leaves me a bit 'flummoxed'!!

The analysis was done properly, and resulted in positive identification with known sample types (coyote, bear, fox, horse etc). I'm not saying it disproves Bigfoot, solely that all samples tested were done so in a controlled fashion under ideal conditions. Meaning that no samples were of an unknown species (sadly), and no cross contamination with human DNA was present (for once). By doing so it put an end to speculation about such cases such as Smeja (sp?) once and for all.

So I can indeed say DNA samples were done in a proper way - now the source of the samples is another story all together ...

Does that "un-flummox" you?


Richard

[sawone]

I managed to find episodes 1 & 2 online, but #3 seems to have been pulled for copyright reasons everywhere that I could find. Do you have a link to a site that still has it up? It sounds like the most intriguing of the 3.

Brad

[Richard]

Nov 29, 2013 15:06:22 GMT -5 sawone said:

I managed to find episodes 1 & 2 online, but #3 seems to have been pulled for copyright reasons everywhere that I could find. Do you have a link to a site that still has it up? It sounds like the most intriguing of the 3.

Brad

PM me your email sir!