sebastian
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Post by sebastian on Nov 24, 2008 0:09:19 GMT -5
Years ago Grover Krantz tried to name Bigfooot "Gigantopithecus canadensis" without a type specimen, but it took much criticisms. Meldrum, more recently (2007), applied an ichnotaxonomic name for the tracks of sasquatch, Anthropoidipes ameriboralis. A very smart move. Interestingly, Martin Lockley ( "The Eternal Trail" 1999), a professor of geology and palaeontology at U of Colorado, had suggested using the ichnotaxonomic name "Gigantopithepodus" (meaning "track of a giant ape") for the footprints found (p. 267). Lockley's suggestion was simply a causal reminder that what can or cannot be done within taxonomic classification. If the tracks of Sasquatch/Bigfoot are now known and testable scientific facts, why still no one take sasquatch seriously culturally and academically?
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Post by lookoutman7 on Nov 27, 2008 17:26:22 GMT -5
Hi Sebastian-
Say hi to the Mrs. for us.
Taxonomic classification is another word for 'Kyoto.' (Just kidding.)
Seriously though, this 'species' is not taken as fact by so many. More of a ghost, moving amongst the shadows. We can follow a Lady Bug to South America, but we can't monitor an eight-foot primate giant. If any creation makes a mockery of man and his technology, it is this biped.
As I had mentioned to you, that during our (Alan and myself) sighting in Princeton, in 1974 - he startled the animal by calling out to it. This is a living breathing creature - we saw nervousness. I can't stress it enough - how this species can ultimately avoid man at every turn. With the 'odds' out of control, much of the scientific community will never believe. They can not accept it. The mystery behind the 'squatch' is so deep, that it remains a fable amongst warring factions. Everyone claims 'it,' but no one can secure the ground underneath the beast.
As I've said before, during the 85 encounter, Richard and I had that thing in the headlights of his car, the animal stopped dead halfway up a hillside. Again - this creature was nervous, shifting it's weight from foot to foot. We then watched 8 feet - over 600 pounds, run and crest that hill. The story is, that this biped will not be taken seriously by most. The animal seems to hold control over mostly everything - in its favor. With the scientific community - they can't control it, so it doesn't exist to most of them, in the way things are structured and compiled. They do not want to be made fools of. As for taken seriously 'culturally?' When one avenue says 'shape-shifter,' and another Aborigianal group says 'it walks through doorways' - it is only the beginning. The 'totem' speaks of this creature one way, and then the primate is 'Big Brother' to a neighboring Tribe. As an example on my part. I won't make many friends if my project is ever published. My research accounts the taboos of Indigenous thinking, and what was uncovered. Then I have to step out on a limb with my own spirituality. Because...if this beast isn't flesh and blood - what is it? (Let's hope the former.) But I've looked into the latter. Again - at ever turn - this animal makes a fool out of most. And the saying, ringing in my ears, again. AN 8 FOOT GIANT RUNNING FREE IN NORTH AMERICA - IMPOSSIBLE.
There's so much that runs through a guy's head on this subject - hopefully one covers it?
As for the 'tracks' and 'such', Seb. Most will humor you - but they don't really believe. As an example to just some of this. Why is it, that 'silly' photos of the supposed beast, still stay up on what are called 'legit sites.' They are not removed. Why - because they're grasping at air. And that is what this bipedal primate is to the...'Up-and-Ups' - air. They don't want to believe. This isn't like X-Files.
I hope some of this made sense. Seeing an actual animal twice, I have many different questions than most. Mine are unanswered as well.
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Post by vilnoori on Nov 28, 2008 14:06:51 GMT -5
I just saw an account of a sasquatch jumping right over some blackberry bushes at the side of a road, about a 20 foot jump. There are also accounts (including the latter one right here in Chilliwack) of the "ninja" ability of climbing right up and over a tall stump. Probably they can muscle their way up big trees very quickly. The stealth ability of these beings must be phenomenal. I think these abilities are ample to account for tracks disappearing in the middle of nowhere, or of creatures sighted in a forest and then simply disappearing. Perhaps they jump or rapidly climb trees, bluffs etc. Swim, even. Fact is they get around exceedingly well in areas that we can't. I don't think we need to ascribe supernatural abilities to them--not that I disbelieve in supernatural things, just not supernatural sasquatches. Fascinating report, Lookoutman. I hope you do publish your project and we get to see it someday.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2008 13:11:56 GMT -5
Hey vilnoori, just signed on in order to give a member a message, won't be staying - but while here, i had the opportunity to read some postings. You are doing an excellent job with finding useful info and hope you continue to bring both new and longstanding ideas and philosophies to the sasquatch field. I especially enjoy your sense of haha! chrissie
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Post by vilnoori on Nov 29, 2008 19:12:44 GMT -5
hiya chrissie, keep on getting out there, eh. Lots of room out there for all of us. One good spot to research is in Hope in behind and uphill of the Othello tunnels. Great place for someone who can get out there to do some looking around and maybe leave some non-food treats in high, conspicuous spots. I don't know if any other researchers are out there. I've heard hoots in that area and there are a couple of sightings at that area in the past. One documented I think by Thomas.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2008 7:41:24 GMT -5
we can't really blame scientist for not classifiying the species as it is. They would need to all the details and facts before naming the specie scientificly. For as long as bigfoot wants to avoid being jailed at the zoo, he will keep on depending on his stealth.
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