Sean V.
Has opinions now!
Alberta Sasquatch Researcher
Posts: 256
|
Post by Sean V. on Mar 24, 2006 2:14:04 GMT -5
There are few other crypto creatures that spark my interest. The few that I do find somewhat interesting are: The Jersey Devil, The Gumberoo , & The Wendigo.
|
|
sebastian
Really into this!
Detective Gadget & Moderator
Posts: 512
|
Post by sebastian on Mar 31, 2006 0:17:15 GMT -5
Thetis Lake monster is sure a strange one. The swamp-thing look-alike usually is dismissed as a hoax. Animals that don't fit into any known zoological group (taxonomy) are extremely puzzling, just like Chupa. Loren Coleman, in one of his book, thinks that the Thetis Lake monster could be an aquatic primate (merbeings). Interesting, but hard to imagine.
cheers, seb
|
|
|
Post by mooseman on Mar 31, 2006 5:47:46 GMT -5
I know what you mean about it being way out there but when you consider the police were involved....I dunno??
I learned about it from my friend whos son had been grabbed by whatever. Coulda been a stick in the lake for all I know.
|
|
Sean V.
Has opinions now!
Alberta Sasquatch Researcher
Posts: 256
|
Post by Sean V. on Apr 1, 2006 1:57:05 GMT -5
Thetis Lake monster is sure a strange one. The swamp-thing look-alike usually is dismissed as a hoax. Animals that don't fit into any known zoological group (taxonomy) are extremely puzzling, just like Chupa. Loren Coleman, in one of his book, thinks that the Thetis Lake monster could be an aquatic primate (merbeings). Interesting, but hard to imagine. cheers, seb Definately interesting. But it is hard to imagine something like that. It's kind of frightening too.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2007 0:32:10 GMT -5
There is a video made by a underwater camera on an oil rig of a very large worm-like creature. The story disappeared quickly but that one stuck with me because the video was pretty clear. And it had the scientific community at a loss as to what it was. Maybe there is an update on this 10plus year story.
In general there is little that would surprise me as far as yet to be discovered deep sea creatures. The plesiosaur theories are fascinating. If they were living recently I wonder if they did finally die off the past few decades. Doesn't seem like too many sightings lately.
The one that got away may be the pterodactyl. It is very interesting that a couple accounts from the mid to late 19th century describe a creature that most people of the time had no academic knowledge of. Yet the descriptions are very close to a pterodactyl. Also interesting accounts of so called Thunderbird s that might fit the description of a pterodactyl. If the pterodactyl did live up to the late 1800's it is very likely they have finally died off. If true it would be a terrible loss.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2008 22:20:30 GMT -5
I spend lots of my timetime in australia and there are a couple cryptic animal that I beleive are possible. The survial of the Tassie Tiger is one. Also the yowie(australia's bigfoot), large lizzards have been report in the northern jungles, also instead of something large there is rumors of a upright pygmie. All i beleive are very possible. There is also a creature called the bunyip. The Aboroginal word for devil but it seems to be a bit more farfetched to me. Google some of thoses and see what you get. Cheers
|
|
|
Post by Armand71 on Feb 10, 2010 20:01:56 GMT -5
They got an image of what they believe to be the Jersey Devil on the TV show Paranormal state last night. It was very interesting, probably just a mutated dear. But the Manitoba version of Ogopogo I do believe in. There was a tiny little article in one of the newspapers in Winnipeg years ago that said "Manipogo monster caught" or something like that. It was a huge water snake, 20-30 feet long, caught by commercial fisherman in one of their nets.
|
|
duallie
Has opinions now!
Posts: 191
|
Post by duallie on Feb 25, 2011 23:09:08 GMT -5
i "want" to believe in ogopogo and sasquatch. but, we need to find some real evidence. a big similarity in all these cryptos, is that they are suppossedly seen very often, yet there is still no concrete proof. nobody ever gets a decent photo or video even. for some reason things are always blurry, shaky, or too far away. many, many sightings are definitely hoaxes and imaginations.
i have more of a 'hope' that these exist than a belief. evidence is badly needed to confirm that something really exists. sightings and stories are great, but they are far from proof.
|
|
billr
Really into this!
Posts: 856
|
Post by billr on Jun 9, 2011 0:06:21 GMT -5
I don't believe in cryptids except in the context of undiscovered deep ocean species
|
|
|
Post by Gerry on Feb 19, 2015 15:12:55 GMT -5
I don't 'believe' in any cryptid! It is just that there is some evidence that sasquatch might exist! Insomuch as that, I am interested in the subject.
|
|
Cryptosaurian
Has opinions now!
Change is in the air...and so is the Search!
Posts: 263
|
Post by Cryptosaurian on Feb 28, 2016 20:17:15 GMT -5
I don't'believe' in cryptids, either! I'm just intensely curious and INTRIGUED if they exist. And for others, I'm CONVINCED that some have a good chance of existing......but that's the closest to 'believing' I'll ever get.
|
|
billr
Really into this!
Posts: 856
|
Post by billr on Feb 29, 2016 0:50:59 GMT -5
In my mind I place crytids in a few different categories 1 - species known to exist, but believed to be extinct. I break this group into subcategories based on their likely hood of present existence
2 - species that may or may not be present in the fossil record. This would include sasquatch as some people believe that they are G. Blacki, once again I break this into subcategories based on the amount and quality of evidence
3 - large lake dwelling creatures in landlocked lakes. As a general rule I don't believe that they exist, however I reserve judgement on the possibility of creatures in the world's largest lakes
4 - large ocean dwelling creatures. I think that few would argue against there being undiscovered ocean dwelling species
5 - fantasy creatures, such as the Jersey Devil, or paranormal creatures
|
|
Richard
Really into this!
Thinking I should be out in the bush ...
Posts: 562
|
Post by Richard on Feb 29, 2016 1:39:22 GMT -5
I believe in Santa ... got a problem with that?
|
|
island
Almost breathing
Posts: 92
|
Post by island on Feb 29, 2016 4:40:27 GMT -5
I know Thetis lake well , it was a lake I used in the summer from the time I was 6 years old till I was 16.
It was 40 years ago (seriously) that I first heard of the Thetis Lake monster back when I was about 10 , it was indeed reported to look like The Creature from the Black lagoon.
I wonder if this is the same sighting or time frame that was mentioned a few posts earlier or if it was years later ?
Personally I think Its more likely a hoax was undertaken by someone with floating footwear as the "creature" was reported to "walk" on water in the stories I heard
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
|
island
Almost breathing
Posts: 92
|
Post by island on Feb 29, 2016 18:56:47 GMT -5
And Now for the rest of the story (the end of which is enlightening)
First brought to international attention in the early 1970’s, this grisly aberration of natural selection has been described as being nearly 5-feet tall and weighing approximately 120 lbs., with an epidermis consisting solely of silver, fish-like scales. This animal’s horrifying visage is made complete by the six, razor-sharp spikes — connected to one another by thin, membranous webbing — which are said to protrude from its amphibious skull.
With its dark, bulbous eyes, fish-like mouth and allegedly webbed hands, feet and ears, the Thetis Lake Monster bears more than a passing resemblance to the iconoclastic image of “The Creature from the Black Lagoon.”
What lends credibility to these reports however, is the fact that for centuries North American natives have reported numerous — and oft times fatal — face to face encounters with various creatures which they describe as being carnivorous, aquatic-humanoids.
These man-like anomalies purportedly lurked in the mist shrouded lakes and rivers of the Pacific northwest. One of the beasts chronicled in these Native American legends was the Pugwis, which reputedly tormented the Kwakiutl Indians of the Puget Sound region for years. These accounts, of course, vastly pre-date the Thetis Lake Monster as well as its cinematic counterpart.
On August 19, 1972, the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) launched a brief investigation into this phenomenon after two teenage boys – 16-year old Robin Flewellyn and 17-year old Gordon Pike — claimed to have been attacked by the creature while cavorting on the shores of Thetis Lake.
According to the two witnesses, they were standing on the beach near the Thetis lake recreational center when they both saw a spontaneous swelling of water just off the shoreline. Suddenly, the monstrous head and silver-scaled torso of this creature rose from the lake and shot from the churning surf toward the two terrified teens.
Within seconds, the bizarre beast was hot on the heels of the boys, who — fearing for their lives — immediately sprinted toward their parked car. As the duo jumped into the vehicle, one of them noticed the being lunging forward. He claimed to have felt an intense pain in his hand as they slammed the car doors and hastily drove away, leaving the scaly fiend in their dusty wake.
After narrowly escaping this vicious predator, Flewellyn and Pike made their way to the nearest RCMP station, where the injured — yet surprisingly unspecified — teen displayed a laceration across his hand, which he claimed was the result of contact with the spike-like fin that adorned the HYBRID BEAST’S skull.
The officers on duty were so impressed by the sincerity of the young men’s tale that a manhunt (or monster-hunt, as the case may be) was immediately launched. According to one of the investigating officers:
“The boys seem sincere, and until we determine otherwise we have no alternative but to continue our investigation.”
Sadly, nothing was turned up on that occasion and the investigation was summarily concluded. That was until just four days later, at approximately 3:30 pm. on the 23rd of August, when the beast reared its ghastly head yet again.
This time the creature — which uncannily matched previous descriptions — was spotted by 12-year old Mike Gold and 14-year old Russell Van Nice, who were fishing on the opposite side of the lake.
Unlike the encounter of the previous week, these witnesses claimed that the creature merely rose out of the water, looked around, then submerged. The boys further maintained that they did not linger long enough to see whether or not the beast would manifest its previously displayed tendency of aggressive anti-human behavior. According to one of the boys:
“It came out of the water and looked around. Then it went back into the water. Then we ran! Its body was silver and shaped like an ordinary body, like a human being body, but it had a monster face, and it was all scaly with a point sticking out of its head and great big ears and horrifying eyes.”
The RCMP re-launched their investigation of this unusual phenomenon with vigor, but hard evidence remained elusive. The lack of proof notwithstanding, it wasn’t long before this UNCLASSIFIED creature made headlines in the Victoria Daily Times, wherein an artist was commissioned to ender the first “official” portrait of the monster. From there tales of the “gill man” quickly spread across the globe.
According to Wikipedia, on August 26th, 1972, a newspaper called The Province allegedly received a phone call from a man who claimed to have lost his pet tegu lizard near Thetis Lake the previous year. The article further asserted that this pet lizard — which can grow up to 3-feet in length and is indigenous to the exceedingly warm climate of Latin America – was the entity responsible for the “monster” sightings.
The article did not explain how the witnesses in question mistook a striped, four-legged tengu lizard for a silver-scaled, bipedal fish-man, nor did it state how said reptile could survive a harsh British Columbia winter in the wild.
Ironically, crypto-skeptic and editor of the Junior Skeptic magazine, Daniel Loxton, wasn’t satisfied with the theory that a pet teju was loose either. He spoke with a Royal B.C. Museum expert, who claimed the South American lizard likely would not have lived through a Victoria winter. Officially debunking that theory.
Next Loxton managed to track down a 49-year old Russell Van Nice — one of the young boys involved in the second sighting in ’72 — who decided to renege on his original testimony, claiming:
“It was just a big lie… [Mike Gold was] trying to get attention.”
Assuming that the quote is authentic, then perhaps it serves as the final epitaph for this magnificently mysterious monster. But even if it is a genuine citation, one simply cannot underestimate the social and economic toll that being involved with an incident such as the extracts from an individual. The years of ridicule and negative press would be enough for anyone to want to wash their hands of their encounter with the unknown.
That having been stated, one also cannot dismiss the fact that there was a second pair of witnesses — one of whom was severely injured by the creature — who claimed to have encountered this fiend first
|
|