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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2008 0:12:46 GMT -5
haha, if you really want to attract a Sasquatch, how about a decoy?
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Post by vilnoori on Sept 6, 2008 1:21:20 GMT -5
Hmmm. I think that in forests far from the ocean, there is a lack of salt and iodine in the diet. How about a salt lick?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2008 7:56:08 GMT -5
As a fluke of luck, I firmly believe that a friend and I once fooled a sasquatch with a flock of duck decoys and calling on a remote interior lake one morning long ago.
A 'very well concealed' trail camera at a mountain salt lick just might render results.
Successful hunting might include trying to think like a sasquatch would (outside the human box). This method works with most wild animals (and fish) I have carefully observed or harvested for food.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2008 14:30:58 GMT -5
I set out a large beachball and a bright orange hockey ball in an area I'm working.Hockey ball is gone, hopefully not with some hiker's dog.Beachball remained undisturbed so I've wedged a CD in the bark of a doug. fir with get this , a box of tic-tacs.Thinking maybe the awful smell attributed to sasquatch is its breath.I had also built a small teepee like structure close to where I have placed these items hoping that this also might attract ther attention as some folks believe that some odd looking tree structures could be attributed to these creatures. Over the next couple of months I plan to place more non-edible items such as these within a km. or so of the original site with the hope of atleast finding a few decent tracks.
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Post by bigfoothunter on Oct 10, 2008 10:44:35 GMT -5
To all ... The premise of baiting for a Sasquatch seems to have derived from desperation and not inspiration. The notion that sitting out colored balls, toys, various foods, and etc., is OK if one has no better plan to implement, but seeing such nonsense hasn't worked in all the years that people have tried this, then when do you get to the point that you should becoming aware that your betting on a horse that has no legs.
To date ... the only thing that seems to have led to the success of anyone having an encounter or a glimpse of the creature has been in the timing of being at the right place at the right time. I recently spent time with a Sasquatch enthusiast who wanted to sit in the bush and wait for a Sasquatch to walk by their location. If one is easily excited by the sound of every stick cracking or leaf rustling, then I reckon' you've achieved your goal. But if an encounter is what your goal is, then there is a better way.
In 1967 when Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin encountered a Sasquatch ... it was accomplished by their infiltration of the vast forest of Northern California. They drove logging roads at night looking for tracks and rode horses in the daytime searching out various remote areas for any sign of the animal. If you think about it, just how many times have you been able to sit in the forest and have a bear or a deer come right up to you compared to the amount of times you were driving the roads and saw these animals. If there is one Sasquatch within a ten mile radius of you ... what would be the odds that out of all the forest around you that this animal will cross your path? But if you penetrate these surrounding areas in as short of time as possible the odds of your paths crossing each other become greatly increased. Patterson and Gimlin were about a month into their search before their path crossed with a Sasquatch in Bluff Creek. What they accomplished was a result of persistence, timing, and luck! There was no leaving of dolls, colored balls, foods, various music being played, or anything else that led to that amazing encounter.
So play around with these other concepts if you must, but there is no substitute for getting out there and covering as large of an area as possible in hopes of you and a Sasquatch having your paths cross. Be sensible - be safe - and be willing to learn from your mistakes. It has been said that the difference between a stupid person and a smart one is that the smart person will eventually know when they've been wrong. There is no evidence that the Sasquatch is any smarter than other animals. One can sit around in the dark giggling and telling stories or they can get out there and actually try to encounter the creature. If one cannot be bush smart ... at least try to pretend to be. (smile~)
If you must bait areas ... I hear that leaving bags of money in the Ruby Creek / Harrison Lake area may be effective. You leave the money and let me know where its at and I'll be happy to check on the bait and report back if its still there or not. If you think this idea is insane, then re-read the thread again in the same context.
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Post by Gerry on Oct 10, 2008 11:13:45 GMT -5
Oh damn! You mean that I got to get out of my comfortable armchair and give a 'standing ovation' for that one? Well.....Okay then! You got it, Dude!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2008 17:11:33 GMT -5
Umm.. ahem.. well it appears as though I've got esplainin' to do.When a person such as myself requires to work a full week so that I might take long periods of time off to take part these endeavors one has to allow for the use of "tools" ie balls, reflective items etc. The rational behind using these tools is,should there be sasquatch moving through these areas might these items catch their attention?For arguments sake let's they do.Now if the above mentioned creature approaches or even removes these items theres the chance that they might leave tracks.Should they leave tracks that you have trouble passing off as bear or human you might be inspired to leave yet another item.The reason behind leaving toys or other such items is that anything will take your bag of apples, can't really see a bear making off with cd where as an ape may find it's reflective qualities intriguing, perhaps it's never seen it's own reflection so clearly.And if I might add to suggest that a sasquatch, largely believed to be a primate, is no smarter than the rest of the known animals in the P.N.W. well thats a bit of a stretch.I would love to explain in greater detail but I must be off to work now.I would be very interested to talk about this further at a later date.
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Post by beegee on Oct 10, 2008 17:23:19 GMT -5
Hear, hear, bigfoothunter, I think all that food should be put to good use in a food bank, the big boy we're after is an opportunistic feeder, Herbivore - Carnivore - Omnivore, the most sightings are of the creature eating berries, leaves, and marsh roots, but I think that it will feed on whatever is edible that it happens upon. There are reports of it stealing game from hunters, but no-one to my knowledge has actually seen it eating meat, although it is not improbable, Oh! and as for those bags of money, bigfoothunter, I'll glady help you to check those myself, and if we find any donuts etc, I'll let you them for yourself.!!!
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Post by bigfoothunter on Oct 11, 2008 12:59:31 GMT -5
There have been reports that the Sasquatch has been observed directly and indirectly as being a meat eater. They have also been reported near garbage dumps, so their being an opportunist when it comes to food is probably an accurate statement. Reports of them being seen in streams trying to catch fish are not uncommon in the Harrison Lake area and elsewhere. Glen Thomas observed the Sasquatch eating rodents.
The doughnut being left on the ground was more of a joke, but there had been a Sasquatch in that area. The importance of someone thinking that it was necessary to go out to a spot - in the dark - with no protection - and no regard for their safety and that of the person with them was no joking matter. It should not have mattered regardless of what ever level of possibility there was to getting hurt .... one simply just doesn't play around and take unnecessary chances in the bush when it comes to safety. To this day the person I was with has not appeared to have gotten the bigger picture. Arrogance, selfishness, and bull-bullheadedness has prevented them from seeing the forest because of the trees. How unfortunate that is for I no longer will work with this individual for this reason.
I recently heard about you mentioning a couple of sources about the dangers of operating in areas known for bears as well as other predators, and I applaud you for it. I was not surprised to see this person (Chrissie) missed the message being offered and wanted more to point out that Tom Steenburg and myself are not bear experts. However, Tom and I have spoken to bear experts, myself taking bear courses given by such experts, and I know that I'm far better off listening to what these experts had to say rather than to try and pretend that I am smarter than they are. More than once that acquired knowledge has saved my hide from an unfortunate consequence that could have easily occurred.
Remember that leaving bait foods for a Sasquatch can also bring in other predators. Be safe by being smart. When the unexpected is underway and someone in your party is being mauled by a wild animal ... it's too late to reconsider your prior actions.
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Post by bigfoothunter on Oct 11, 2008 16:36:23 GMT -5
"And if I might add to suggest that a sasquatch, largely believed to be a primate, is no smarter than the rest of the known animals in the P.N.W. well thats a bit of a stretch"
I would love to hear how the Sasquatch not being any smarter than other animals is a stretch. Far too often these creatures are given above average intelligence by those who have been unsuccessful in finding it. I think that some people just find it more preferable to take that position over admitting that they just don't know how to accomplish their goal. There are days when we have gone over 200k and we didn't see anything but a few butterflies. Does this mean that all the another animals and insects were smarter than us??? I have yet to see a cougar in the wild in the past 10 years - cougars must really be intelligent! ;D A month or so ago I came across a large salamander for the first time ... was it one of the dumber ones for all the smart ones have remained undetected by me to date?? The Sasquatch being few in number and living in remote areas does not equate to it being more intelligent than other animals, but I am open to any evidence to the contrary.
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Post by vilnoori on Oct 11, 2008 18:22:00 GMT -5
Unfortunately the drawback to driving is they can hear you coming a mile away. The Bluff Creek encounter (if there was one) was probably successful because of the fact they were on horses. An interesting option as the technology advances is using electric vehicles that are much quieter, such as an electric scooter or atv (is there such a thing?). Also that is a lot of gas (200k!) not to mention time. I like to drive into a remote location and then get on a bike for a mile or two, then get off, stash the bike and have a very very good look around. My goal is to do very low impact overnight camping after driving into a remote location and biking even further into an area of high sightings. Or canoe/kayak in, that would work too. Then camp overnight or for a few days, keeping noise to a minimum and keeping the ol' eyes open. I've read accounts of cold camping that interest me a lot, because this is a way to move into an area very quietly with very little impact. It would be good to find a good location which can be somewhat protected at night but with a good overview, such as a high point, perhaps against a cliff, under a dry tree or something. I'm working on it. The problem for me is just plain and simply finding the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2008 10:19:23 GMT -5
i found an online journal from a sasquatch hunter and started reading. In these journal entries he speaks to "baiting" , cd's were talked about for their "shiny" properties. Here's the link for anybody interested in learning what others have been up to!! bfjournal.tripod.com/pages/thomas.htmlChrissie
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Post by bigfoothunter on Oct 18, 2008 9:41:55 GMT -5
Unfortunately the drawback to driving is they can hear you coming a mile away. I once read somewhere (possibly something John Green wrote) that over 90+ percent of the sightings reported have come from people on the road and driving. Lord knows that there are so many other animals seen from motor vehicles. The two recent Mt. Archibald / Cheam sightings were from motor vehicles. Betty Unger's sighting was from a motor vehicle. Terry Reams, Ralph Bob, etc., were from motor vehicles. It appears that its all in the being at the right place at the right time.
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Post by vilnoori on Oct 18, 2008 13:25:37 GMT -5
Hmmm...yes, but the quality of the sighting is often, "that was a sasquatch!" as a big brown blurry man-like figure crosses in front of them on the road and disappears, or is seen briefly beside them on the road before stepping into the bush not to be seen again. But, hey, it's better than nothing! And admittedly it is fun to drive around the back roads, I do it all the time.
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Post by bigfoothunter on Oct 18, 2008 20:18:26 GMT -5
Hmmm...yes, but the quality of the sighting is often, "that was a sasquatch!" as a big brown blurry man-like figure crosses in front of them on the road and disappears, or is seen briefly beside them on the road before stepping into the bush not to be seen again. And the alternative is what ... sitting down a piece of fruit and sitting back and waiting for the animal to arrive? How many people have ever baited an area and actually saw a Sasquatch because of it?? Isn't what people do is lay food out and then leave and come back to see if anything has taken the bait???
Steenburg and myself have driven up on animals and gotten good lengthy film of them. One's actions once they come up on the animal can often times make a difference in how long of a look you can get of it. I have observed this first hand with bear, deer, coyote as well as with other animals.
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