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Post by vilnoori on Oct 19, 2008 20:34:51 GMT -5
Unfortunately sightings are not going to convince anyone. We need a socialization situation as has been conducted with other great apes. Even getting a body is not going to tell us much, other than confirm to science that sasquatches exist. It will be socialization studies that give us the most data about them in the long run. And yes, socializing young sasquatch to humans will teach us a great deal too. One can but dream. I think unconsciously people who are attempting to feed them are thinking along socialization lines. In Africa one of the ways that they get wild chimps used to people is by setting up regular feeding schedules in areas of wild chimp activity. Goodall would dump a quantity of sugar cane in an area for years on a regular basis, and the chimps eventually learned that it was safe to come get the treat. Goodall progressed to the point where she would be seated nearby, and they would feed around her. And soon the young ones would become comfortable approaching her, because they recognised she was never a threat. She spent years doing this, gaining their trust. It does take a great deal of patience, and it takes a person who is very comfortable with wild animals. It takes the kind of person who CAN sit in the woods in one place and have wild animals approach to within a few feet. I've done it--I've sat in one place and had a herd of deer feeding around me. A very special moment.
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Post by bigfoothunter on Oct 20, 2008 17:30:41 GMT -5
Unfortunately sightings are not going to convince anyone. We need a socialization situation as has been conducted with other great apes. I agree ... when one of you come across a social group of Sasquatches, then by all means let us know how they interact. (sigh~)
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Post by vilnoori on Oct 21, 2008 1:07:23 GMT -5
You don't find social groups of orangs, either. Socialization means getting them used to people being present, non-threatening people doing routine things.
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Post by bigfoothunter on Oct 21, 2008 19:56:44 GMT -5
You don't find social groups of orangs, either. Socialization means getting them used to people being present, non-threatening people doing routine things. What you describe has already been reported to have been done through the socialization of at least one Sasquatch with Mary Green from the great state of Tennessee. I guess that we have learned through Mary's social contact with her Bigfoot friend that it prefers minced garlic over clove garlic. It will be interesting to find out if this applies to all Sasquatches or is an isolated preference.
On a lighter note I am hoping that Mary can find out if there is a particular brand of minced garlic that the Sasquatch prefers so we can start using it in our field studies at Ruby Creek.
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Post by vilnoori on Oct 22, 2008 19:44:50 GMT -5
Now you ARE pulling my leg. But really, if we want to find out stuff about these creatures (if they exist) some kind of long term observation of them in their natural setting is going to have to take place, somehow. Garlic, by the way is a very strong vermifuge (worm expeller), antibacterial, antiviral and antifungal herb in the fresh form. If they do like garlic (I have no evidence to think they do, but what the hey) they are displaying pretty good taste and making a good choice for their health's sake. As would we--it also brings down high blood pressure, in addition to all the other good things I mentioned.
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Post by bigfoothunter on Oct 22, 2008 20:16:27 GMT -5
Now you ARE pulling my leg. But really, if we want to find out stuff about these creatures (if they exist) some kind of long term observation of them in their natural setting is going to have to take place, somehow. Garlic, by the way is a very strong vermifuge (worm expeller), antibacterial, antiviral and antifungal herb in the fresh form. If they do like garlic (I have no evidence to think they do, but what the hey) they are displaying pretty good taste and making a good choice for their health's sake. As would we--it also brings down high blood pressure, in addition to all the other good things I mentioned. Well, hopefully some of us will locate one so someone else can observe it long term. (smile~) Tomorrow will be the third full day this week at searching.
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Post by vilnoori on Oct 23, 2008 1:53:11 GMT -5
Lucky you! Hope you get even luckier soon.
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Post by vilnoori on Nov 2, 2010 23:57:44 GMT -5
Today I used something new: double salt licorice. I was thinking about using salt as bait, but in this climate I don't want to use plain salt that will dissolve. So I've been using these double salt licorice, and also hazelnuts. Just passing along some ideas...
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Post by Sean V. on Nov 3, 2010 3:38:21 GMT -5
It must only be the Sasquatch in the southern USA that prefer garlic . A member of the group I am in once used a variety of items at a bait station, one of them was garlic sausage. Everything but the sausage & a pumpkin had been taken. These two items were not even touched. *edited for typo*
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Post by Jason C. on Mar 20, 2012 15:31:39 GMT -5
On one hand, I personally believe the Chehalis Indians had a very good reason for calling the general area around Chehalis River fen (called the Statloo in their language) the Saskahaua, or "Place of the Wild Men." On old maps of the area, Morris Creek is labelled as Saskahaua Creek or "Place of the Wild Men Creek" Morris Creek can be found on Topo Map 92H5. On Google Maps/Earth it is not labelled and does not show the creek going up to Morris Lake. The level of the Harrison River fluctuates dramatically with the Spring thaw. My parents live in Harrison Mills, within 100 yards of it's banks... such a beautiful place.
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Post by Richard on Mar 20, 2012 23:30:00 GMT -5
Rather interesting - there is such great information on Bigfoot in First-Nations lore and myth that is so easily dismissed - the First-Nation members were after all masters of living in the wild, and one would think that they would know what they are talking about ...
Is Morris Creek 4X4 accessible or only single track?
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Post by Jason C. on Mar 21, 2012 14:28:24 GMT -5
Is Morris Creek 4X4 accessible or only single track? There are no roads leading directly to Morris Creek. The creek is rather short: only a couple hundred meters long from Morris Lake to Harrison River. And most of it is on Chehalis Tribal lands. Morris Lake is easy to get to. It is on Morris Valley Road (left at Sasquatch Inn coming from Mission) just past the Weaver Creek Spawning Channel. Hang the right at the three-way intersection, and the lake will be on your right about 700 meters down the road. The salmon run up Morris Creek during the spring and fall is phenomenal. The Weaver Creek Spawning Channel is an amazing thing to see. Great for the kids to see and learn the reproductive cycle of salmon.
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Post by Richard on Mar 21, 2012 21:14:59 GMT -5
That is the issue with Bigfoot, the heal does not in fact come down first, and they walk flat footed (according to Meldrum) - hence the casts often appear faked as they do not have much of a heel dent.
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