Trail Cam Photo or haox?

[sebastian]

Here we go again:

txsasquatch.blogspot.com/2012/03/misinformation-and-flat-out-lies-is.html



I don't know what's the fuzz, the subject in the "trail cam" looked just like the costume from the movie "Clawed, the Legend of Sasquatch".

What's your take on this?

Attachments:

[kokanee]

Well personally I feel its definatly not the costume. The side by side your are showing is the costume split in 2, with the one side being colour changed to show that the same colour can be be achieved. (maybe u knew that already)

The shoulders are different, the head is different, the the amount of detail on the skin, even showing what looks like wounds on the back......... personally, if its a hoax, very well done, but I think this could be the real thing.

Check out this higher res version, and look very closely.

4.bp.blogspot.com/-XclQAEuo0JM/T0bBVCs34LI/AAAAAAAADjk/-ooeNdMiduU/s1600/American-bigfoot-society's-bigfoot-sasquatch-picture.png

Also, MK Davis did a couple great breakdowns, and I really like his second one he put out last week. Check this out.

www.bigfootencounters.com/films/hovey-image.htm


There were alot of people complaining about the the positioning of the camera, and why this thing would be staring at a bush. They are complaining that the photo was cropped. Well, I have a couple trailcam pictures here that are from my dads acerage in aldergrove, showing a deer, one original, and one cropped. What a difference it can make! (this is an example

Attachments:

[kokanee]

Sorry here is the other photo.

Attachments:

[Richard]

With any photo analysis, one MUST have the original photo.
The ORIGINAL JPEG file is needed to prove if it has been edited or not. Without it, it is impossible to ascertain if it is an authentic photo.

• Now original is just a copy of the original trailcam photo - any editing changes made can be shown.
  
  
• By authentic, I mean a non-photoshop'ed image, the subject could still be fake, but that is now a makeup question, not a digital one.
  
  

Richard

[billr]

Mar 13, 2012 11:55:17 GMT -5 kokanee said:

Well personally I feel its definatly not the costume. The side by side your are showing is the costume split in 2, with the one side being colour changed to show that the same colour can be be achieved. (maybe u knew that already)

The shoulders are different, the head is different, the the amount of detail on the skin, even showing what looks like wounds on the back......... personally, if its a hoax, very well done, but I think this could be the real thing.

Check out this higher res version, and look very closely.

4.bp.blogspot.com/-XclQAEuo0JM/T0bBVCs34LI/AAAAAAAADjk/-ooeNdMiduU/s1600/American-bigfoot-society's-bigfoot-sasquatch-picture.png

Also, MK Davis did a couple great breakdowns, and I really like his second one he put out last week. Check this out.

www.bigfootencounters.com/films/hovey-image.htm


There were alot of people complaining about the the positioning of the camera, and why this thing would be staring at a bush. They are complaining that the photo was cropped. Well, I have a couple trailcam pictures here that are from my dads acerage in aldergrove, showing a deer, one original, and one cropped. What a difference it can make! (this is an example

Interesting
If you believe those are wounds on its back, do you think it could be connected to the suppose "echo team" shooting in Texas?

edit to add my 7 inch netbook doesn't show the photos clear enough to detect wounds, so my question is based solely on your observation

[Jason C.]

panleoatrox said:

What's your take on this?

It is interesting but nothing more.

Maybe some day when/if they are proven, it will add to a body of knowledge. Until then the photos, videos and footprints don't mean scat.

[bigfoothunter]

Mar 13, 2012 11:55:17 GMT -5 kokanee said:

Also, MK Davis did a couple great breakdowns, and I really like his second one he put out last week. Check this out.

Davis is a nut who thinks that manipulating an image somehow brings out hidden details. I wish that people would stop and consider why he is the only one in a world of real photographic experts who pushes that kind of junk science.

[Richard]

Mar 18, 2012 6:55:44 GMT -5 bigfoothunter said:

Davis is a nut who thinks that manipulating an image somehow brings out hidden details. I wish that people would stop and consider why he is the only one in a world of real photographic experts who pushes that kind of junk science.

Well JPEG manipulation CAN indeed bring out details, and make them visible to the naked eye - they are always there within the data file, simply cannot be seen.

I am not saying that he is/isn't a nut, but the technique is valid, the only problem is taking it too far and leaving too much to the imagination

Richard.

[bigfoothunter]

I think what I am trying to say is that there is no more information on a piece of film than what the camera caught. Davis manipulates images to a point of creating things that were never there ... old bullet wounds and scars would be one such example. The curled lip in Bonney's cibrachrome image Vs other alike images that were not so contrasted, and so on.

Manipulating light can bring out borders in some cases, but even very little into that process one starts expanding borders, which is then giving off a false outline.

[Sean V.]

Mar 21, 2012 10:47:45 GMT -5 bigfoothunter said:

I think what I am trying to say is that there is no more information on a piece of film than what the camera caught. Davis manipulates images to a point of creating things that were never there ... old bullet wounds and scars would be one such example. The curled lip in Bonney's cibrachrome image Vs other alike images that were not so contrasted, and so on.

Manipulating light can bring out borders in some cases, but even very little into that process one starts expanding borders, which is then giving off a false outline.

Yeah, I don't think too highly of him anymore either. The whole "Massacre at Bluff Creek" nonsense cast what credibility he had left to the wind (in my opinion).

[westerncanadian]

It is the costume from Clawed and so this thread can now rest in peace.