J W Burnes didn't "invent" the word sasquatch. What happened was that he wasn't able to spell the word the way the Chehalis band pronounced it so when he wrote about them he spelled it the best way he knew how. There were some Chehalis elders at the John Green tribute last year and they told us the story. The way they pronounced it was with three syllables, and this is just how I can best describe it, not necessarily the proper spelling, tse es quat.
From what I understand Burns coined the word sasquatch in the 20's but I'm not sure of the exact year.
The Chehalis, and Coast Salish, word was around long before Ostman's account so when he finally did get around to telling the story, which wasn't until some time in the 40's at least, he probably just used the common pronunciation.
Hi everyone, I see great minds do think alike and someone else had the same idea I did about finding the Ostman "valley". We all know how much easier it is to find something that's stationary.
The location I came up with back in the 80s using topographic maps from the reference library, I remember, was a V-shaped-looking valley or canyon. I don't have my notes so I'd have to go back and retrace everything which I can do from home now.
I noticed a different location was pinpointed here. It would be interesting to see how close we are.
I became skeptical about Ostman's story because I thought he was German. Even the Bauman story, there was a disclaimer that he was German. Ostman was Scandinavian. I now tend to think it was true.
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I'll defer to Teddy Roosevelt from a more honest and blunt time. I accept it being at least a quarter of that extraction.
"He must have believed what he said, for he could hardly repress a shudder at certain points of the tale; but he was of German ancestry and in childhood had doubtless been saturated with all kinds of ghost and goblin lore, so that fearsome superstitions were latent in his mind;..."
It's more a function of what the tall tale would serve. If your interest lies in the wilderness, you will tell tales about that. If you entertain people with stories, you might end up telling them so many times, you'll believe it.
I would also trust someone who was a legitimate prospector as well and not just someone looking for lost mines. I can't remember if Ostman was also a prospector. That would mean he's has a foot in reality and practicality.
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I am not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying that if he had motive (financial gain) to lie he would, or that due to his ancestry he was prone to believing in nonsense?
The former I agree with, the latter ... well ... we all know that Germany of that era generated all types of people with fearsome superstitions in their mind such as Albert Einstein, Max Planck, Werner Heisenberg to name but a few. Those lunatics.
-One step, two step, three step ... Wait, I don't have size 26 feet?-
Credibility and who’s lying, exaggerating, or hoaxing is an in depth discussion. It could be offensive. Suffice to say, with no credible killer Bigfoot in over 100 years, then it’s safe to say Bauman or Roosevelt was fabricating or combining stories. We don’t have Bauman’s direct quote, only Roosevelt’s detailed account. I’d say the politician was being a politician, the Roughrider type.
Ostman’s story rings different.
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Ron Morehead went looking for the “Ostman Valley” with aircraft and couldn’t find it He too said you couldn’t see what Ostman claimed he could see from his mountain vantage point. His conclusion was that he had the wrong inlet and it was decades later when he retold the story. (Source: Coast to Coast interview last night)