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Post by Captain Morgan on Jul 19, 2016 2:00:49 GMT -5
Thx Dock B for the report. We do talk about tree breaks with a very sober mindset. Afaik other than snow and wind, we can't account for sharp breaks in trees at that height. At 12', I wouldn't attribute that to a bear or an Elk unless it had straddled the tree going up it to bend it etc. I suppose that a tree could be broken as such and right itself again as to not indicate it had been so severely bent. I would need to consider the thickness of the tree etc.
Do you have any photos from these examples? Are you willing to take anyone else to survey the areas you mention? There are a couple of us who might be willing to see this in person.
It might be interesting to super hide some trail cams there for a few months then go back and retrieve them.
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Post by Dock B on Jul 20, 2016 9:45:54 GMT -5
Captain Yes, I do Have some photos. I will see if I can get some truly representative examples separated out to post.
Yes, I am willing to have someone accompany me for a return visit. However, it is eight hours from my house to where I camp. I am sure it would be longer and more cumbersome for most anyone else. If we drive harder and faster it is still pretty much a shot day going and coming. It might not be the ideal way to spend a three-day week-end. I allow five days minimum. I am at present packed and looking for the needed window.
Proper trail cam placement would be a day long project in of itself.
Dock B
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Post by Captain Morgan on Jul 20, 2016 18:57:54 GMT -5
Dock B it sounds like you have a very realistic expectation on travel time, walking in to the bush time, cam placement time, it always takes longer than one thinks.
At that distance, I would want to properly hide a cam with an external 12v battery and mark the spot with a GPS, photos etc. The come back after a couple or few months to retrieve. Plus, Canuk gasoline isn't getting any cheaper! At least not where I've been.
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Post by Dock B on Jul 21, 2016 9:45:42 GMT -5
A couple of quick pictures for comparison. The start of the trail in October vs the same approach to the trail in May. Of note but not overly apparent in the picture is another break in the background that is changed from October to May. Very likely due to natural causes, wind, snow etc.? Nothing exciting but maybe interesting. If these post well and there is interest I can post a few more.
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Post by Captain Morgan on Jul 21, 2016 12:58:02 GMT -5
Thx for the post and pics. IMHO these examples aren't compelling enough based on these reasons.
1) the breaks are low to the ground, not 10' in the air. 2) the breaks are not acute and twisted, they are long and not twisted. 3) there are a number of other trees of similar size in close proximity that are bowed down. 4) the affected trees are not covered by the canopy of other trees maximizing the snow accumulation on them. 5) it's possible that the trees were bowed and or snapped low due to a known\unknown weight at the top, and sheer leverage. 6) general lack of any other particularly compelling or implausible \ unexplained physical characteristics.
I would like to believe that tree twists are a real thing, but at this point I would only consider evidence that isn't ruled out in the above criteria.
To dive in to a particular investigation in more depth, let's all start new threads. This is for generalized research outing reports.
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Post by Cryptosaurian on Aug 5, 2016 20:55:49 GMT -5
Hi guys, today, I did some land-based observation field work at Kalamoir Regional Park. Didn't see any serpent-like creatures (Ogopogo) but I was happy to do it because I got the 100th issue of the BCSCC Quarterly. It was a beautiful day and I decided to make the most of it. Boy, does it feel good to be back in the field again! I will say this: I am proud to be a part of the BCSCC! Research Report write-up coming soon. My next stop will be near Paul's Tomb right where that recent sighting of a serpentine something was seen slithering through the water on Castanet.
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Post by Cryptosaurian on Nov 10, 2016 0:29:59 GMT -5
Okay guys, here is my entire summer fieldwork notes; I didn't get to do much of it but the fact I went out into the field was still a positive. Going to do it more next summer though 1. June 14th, 2016---Location: Pebble Beach Weather: Windy, sunny with little or no cloud Investigation Summary: With my Mom graciously driving, I arrived at Pebble Beach at 10:31 a.m. PST on Tuesday 14th, June 2016 with a field-work buddy in tow. After agreeing on a time to report-in to Mom, I set off onto the beach. The purpose of this particular field-trip was not to collect evidence of any of “Bennet’s bestiary” (as I’ve come to call the creature menagerie he has ‘sighted’), but to scout the area to see if or if not a large creature could remain there undetected. To give a brief idea of where this is, Pebble Beach is at the end of Whitworth Road passing Gellatly Bay. The beach is just a walk down from a residential neighborhood and is bordered by a small mountain area with a handful of forest. I got to the beach and looked. The beach area on the right is only a 5 minute walk to an area with a picnic (characterized by a tall wall of rock). A landing dock for boats is close-by and the water level is quite high; my original plan was to see if I could walk to the area where Bennett had some of his land-based encounters but that was dashed by the high water level. Nevertheless, with video camcorder in hand, I waded through the water and found my boots full of water by the time I got to the other area. While emptying out water of the footwear, it became obvious that this particular vicinity was not suited for elusive cryptids to live in. The residential human population is too close, the water around here is far too shallow for any large water creature to elude detection and any strange, land beasties would be reported by residents to local outlets like Castanet. After empting my boots of water, I headed back (through the water again) to my Mom, asking her if we could find another way to hike in. We left at 11:05 am to do as such. The trouble: there were trespassing signs in and around the areas I wanted to search so I decided the best way was to ask Bennett to see if he could let me go on his ‘research’ outings. 2. Land-Based Observation-Kalamoir Regional Park August.5th/2016 Location: Kalamoir Regional Park Time Arrived: 11:33 am – Left: 3:26 pm Observation(s): None Shore-based evidence: None Unusual Wildlife Behavior: None Weather Conditions: Sunny with clouds & little breeze Lake conditions: Fairly calm with a few waves Summary: It’s great to be doing field work again. Saw nothing that could have been a lake cryptid but I did see a lot of boats, boat wakes, people, ducks & waves that could be mistaken for a lake creature. Almost misidentified a couple of disturbances but later found/determined to be of man-made cause. Found no shore-based evidence & did not observe any strange animal behaviour that would lead me to believe that an unknown, aquatic carnivore was nearby. Nonetheless, I’ll continue my field observation efforts. Next location: Rotary Beach Park 3. Rotary Beach Park August. 18th/2016 Location: Rotary Beach Time Arrived: Arrived at 1:10 am—Left: 3:45 pm Observations: None Shore-based evidence: None Unusual wildlife behaviour: None Weather Conditions: Optimum; sunny with no clouds. Little windy but nothing rough. Lake Conditions: only small waves but otherwise calm. Summary: Lots of boats, paddle-boarders on the lake. Thought I saw something a couple times but turned to be boats or boat wakes. No lake cryptid(s) but I had a good day of field work. Beach was lovely. Overall, a good day of field work.
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Post by billr on Nov 10, 2016 0:56:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the update
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Post by Cryptosaurian on Nov 14, 2016 0:13:12 GMT -5
Thank you, Bill. And no, I still have not heard from Bennett. Oh wel, his claims weren't all that credible anyway so I can most definitely live without.....
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Post by sawone on Feb 13, 2017 23:47:33 GMT -5
I took My buddy Jim for a run up the east side of Harrison Lake today, to check out road conditions after the recent snow storms, and locate the recent sighting spot that Thomas had told me about. I won't go into details of the location, as Thomas has not yet published his interview with the witnesses, but there has been considerable snowfall since the sighting, so there was no sign of any tracks, new or old in that area. The main logging road was well plowed, though quite narrow, with high banks from the plowing in some sections, so meeting oncoming traffic was tricky, as both vehicles had to push the passenger side into the quite firm snowbank, and fold mirrors in to clear each other on the driver's side.
We continued N on the main road as far as the Clear Creek hot springs turnoff, though the well plowed sections ended at Big Silver Creek logging camp. It was late enough in the day to turn around and return to pavement, 35 km behind us, so we did just that. Our only wildlife encounter occurred between Cogburn Creek Camp and Bear Creek campsite, when we rounded a curve and startled a couple of big Blacktail does, who bolted into the timber so fast that neither of us got our cameras aimed for a shot. The rest of the run out was uneventful, but by the time we got back to pavement, you could hardly tell what colour my truck was! With the bright sun and snowy hills, it was a very pleasant day to be out in the back country of BC.
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Post by Richard on Feb 15, 2017 21:27:10 GMT -5
Be careful out there - as the avalanche risks are quite high!!! Hopefully the weather will improve and we can head out for some nice RnR
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Post by sawone on Feb 16, 2017 1:54:15 GMT -5
Thanks Richard, for your concern. I was aware of the high risk avalanche situation, but I know the area well enough to understand that the route we took has no noticeable avalanche chutes, and was in use by logging operations this winter, so is relatively safe. It actually fared better than the 3 major highways East out of the Fraser Valley did this past weekend.
I'm with you on the RnR, after all the cold and snow in the last couple of months, I was fully in "cabin fever" mode, and just had to get out for a day. If your driving time is still hampered by your arm injury, I've usually got a seat available in my SUV.
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Post by Richard on Feb 16, 2017 20:05:02 GMT -5
You think you have cabin fever? Thanks to my buggered arm I've been KOed for better part of 2 years. Now, finally on the slow-mend, it means this spring I am going to out in the woods ... Fair enough I've put on some 30 lbs due to inactivity ... My "new" hiking gear is now several years old But damn skippy I am going out and walk around in the bush, making coffee on a fire and enjoying BC So ... when are we going? RIchard
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Post by sawone on Feb 19, 2017 22:50:57 GMT -5
Got out again to the location of the Jan. 20th sighting near Sasquatch Park, with Thomas, Bill, and Jason, to have another look now that most of the snow has melted. We were able to locate the spot from where the witnesses saw the animal standing, and with Bill and Jason on the roadway in that spot , Thomas and I hiked up the hill to where they claimed the creature was located when they spotted it. Thomas had left a stake with a red survey tape at the creature's location when he did the initial investigation, so we knew we were back at the right point. Bill and Jason could see us quite clearly from the road, through the moss covered tree trunks, even though Thomas and I were both wearing camo outfits, but we only had to step a pace or 2 to either side to disappear from their view. We could still see very faint track impressions in the leafy understory, and found a bit of plaster debris from the cast making, but all definition was gone from the tracks after having 18" of snow fall on them and then melt away over the last few weeks.
I did take a dozen or so pics with my old Canon Powershot, but my new Windows 10 computer doesn't seem to want to communicate with the camera, so I can't post them till I get that sorted out, sorry.
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Post by Cryptosaurian on Feb 28, 2017 17:46:57 GMT -5
Hi guys, Crypto-Zilla2016 here! *SHAMELESS PLUGGING AHEAD* Just created a DeviantArt account; here's the link: kelownazilla2017.deviantart.com/I do drawings of kaiju/giant monsters, cryptids and other monsters. Please check it out.
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