More vocalization!?

[sebastian]

Sounds like coyotes to me but truly a spooky situation.

[Gerry]

Remanicent of the Chehalis Call, although in a different place which might have affected the timber of the vocalization.

www.sasquatch-bc.com/chehalis.mp3

Just as that call was different than this one, which is a coyote location call.
www.sasquatch-bc.com/coyote1.wav


Both are the same, just different timber in the tone which could be due to the surrounding landscape and weather conditions.

To put a final nail in the coffin on this one..Here is a 'coyote moan' as recorded by Ohio Bigfoot research.....

www.sasquatch-bc.com/coyote2.MP3
sound familiar ?

Gerry

[sebastian]

Different in geography may also affect the echo effect.

[thomassteenburg]

creepy situation for this couple but I would bet coyotes, and a lot of echo effect.

Thomas Steenburg

[Jason C.]

I am really sick and tired off all these idiots labeling unknown sounds as "bigfoot" or "sasquatch".

My newest mantra: "If you can't see what is making the sounds, you can't SAY what is making the sounds!"

It is as ridiculous as Moneymaker, Bobo, and others stating that sasquatches imitate coyotes sounds. There is ZERO proof of that.

[sebastian]

I found this comment on FB from one Ohio researcher:

"Some claim that Coyotes follow Sasquatch to get his scraps, but I believe that Sasquatch follows the Coyotes just as Modern Humans follow their hunting dogs. I believe that Sasquatch will howl in order to locate where the Coyotes are hunting. I have captured this scenario of sounds many times."

Remember Steven Segal's Under Siege 2? "Assumption is mother of all F up."

[Captain Morgan]

Replying to the last 2 posts 4 & 5

I haven't even watched the last couple of episodes of Finding Bigfoot. I can't stomach it any longer. The only ties with any BF community or forums that I have left at all is this one, I just can't endure all the drama and bullsh!t in the BF cults.

Other than than the fact that I ping you guys and spend a lot of money to muck around in the rain you'd never know I was interested in Sasquatch.

[Richard]

ROTFLOL
true ... Same here ... This is the only sane group around!
Sad that I'm here to bring the status quo down
R

[sebastian]

The problem is that most "researchers" are believers and they want to bend the fact to fit their theories.

[Richard]

Mar 10, 2013 20:55:59 GMT -5 sebastian said:

The problem is that most "researchers" are believers and they want to bend the fact to fit their theories.

Over the years I have found that many people who research the field - any field for that matter - treat it almost like a religion. By that I mean instead of:

Seeking evidence and determining conclusions

Most people seek evidence to support their theories and disregard the rest.

Everything in the bush (sound, "nests" or tree breaks) that people cannot explain MUST be made by an elusive creature called Sasquatch - it couldn't possibly be made by the thousands of other woodland animals that are far more prolific and exhibit similar behavior.

Sadly I have yet to see any evidence firsthand that would even suggest that a BF exists - at least nothing that I cannot explain away. Reasonable ground to believe is commonly used in legal circles - sadly I have yet to see any ... I am not saying others haven't but I have yet to see it.

R

[Sean V.]

Mar 7, 2013 13:00:13 GMT -5 Jason C. said:

I am really sick and tired off all these idiots labeling unknown sounds as "bigfoot" or "sasquatch".

The problem is, these "idiots" as you call them know nothing about Sasquatch. All of the information they have gathered usually comes from shows like Finding Bigfoot, where they watch people who are said to be experts spread misinformation around(although the new people don't know its misinformation). Hence they take what these people have said as the truth about Sasquatch.

I would have to reserve my judgement about them being idiots, and call them wishful thinkers or just plain inexperienced. If after a number of years, they still act the same way then it is perfectly acceptable to brand them as tried and true idiots.

[shawn]

I can agree there are many expert investigators investigating this whole bigfoot mystery. I don't agree that there are ANY experts on bigfoot simple fact is we know NOTHING with absolute certainty about this creature. As for the name calling I left that back in grade school.

[Captain Morgan]

An idiot, dolt, or dullard is a mentally deficient person, or someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. Archaically the word mome has also been used. The similar terms moron, imbecile, and cretin have all gained specialized meanings in modern times. An idiot is said to be idiotic, and to suffer from idiocy. A dunce is an idiot who is specifically incapable of learning. An idiot differs from a fool (who is unwise) and an ignoramus (who is uneducated/an ignorant), neither of which refers to someone with low intelligence.

Part of adulthood is not using a euphemism to describe what already has an appropriately fitting name or label.

A euphemism is a generally innocuous word or expression used in place of one that may be found offensive or suggest something unpleasant.[1] Some euphemisms are intended to amuse, while others use bland, inoffensive, and often misleading terms for things the user wishes to dissimulate or downplay. Euphemisms are used for dissimulation, to refer to taboo topics (such as disability, sex, excretion, and death) in a polite way, and to mask profanity.

Euphemisms may be used to avoid words considered rude, while conveying their meaning: "Kiss my you-know-what!" instead of the more vulgar, "I disagree/arse"; the expletive sugar to substitute nuts. Some euphemisms are so commonly used as to be standard usage: "pass away" for "die". Over the centuries euphemisms have been introduced for "latrine", and themselves replaced as they came to be considered unacceptable; "toilet", once itself a euphemism, is often euphemised as "bathroom", "restroom", etc. Euphemisms are used to downplay and conceal unpalatable facts, as "collateral damage" for "civilian casualties" in a military context, and "redacted" for "censored".

I would argue that once a person or group of people have defined themselves as experts on a subject they are indeed no longer qualified to be dismissed as "wishful thinkers or just plain inexperienced".

ie: "Moneymaker, Bobo, and others stating that sasquatches imitate coyotes sounds"

Of course they aren't the only ones that think this might be possible, at least folks like Stan Courtney keep an open mind and attempts to cite facts, if you can call recordings interpreted by he, and Sybilla Irwin, Todd Perteet facts.

Many groups or cults of geographical importance such as the Ohio groups and Minnesota Research Project team have been self appointed experts AND misinformed long before the show FINDING BIGFOOT and spread deception to the bigfoot research community; where-as the more recent and popular Show FINDING BIGFOOT and it's participants spread misinformation to the general public on a much larger scale.


So, call a kettle black. If a person or persons make wild accusations and speculation and are given to delusions of grandeur as a subject matter expert on a mythical and unproven creature then they are dullards, dopes, dolts, loons, imbeciles, dunces and most exquisitely, idiots.

[Gerry]

"IT has always been my belief that grizzly bears [ aka ] Alaskan Brown bears, imitate the sound of hummingbird wings in order to gain stealthy access to backyard feeders and get at the sugar water, which helps them fatten up for those long winter months.
I have captured this scenario of sounds many times!"

Have I ever seen this happen? No! But it is a working theory, backed up by recordings. So it is very plausable!
All they have to do is purse their lips and blow gently....



You know! I would drop any kind of interest in this entity..if I just could prove that sasquatch does not exist. But I cannot!
That there is evidence of its existence makes it even tougher! (Note! I said evidence, not proof! )
It is difficult enough as it is without wading in the cesspool of misinformation and general ignorance on the subject and its history.

[bigfoothunter]

An idiot, dolt, or dullard is a mentally deficient person, or someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. .

Like shooting off fireworks in an attempt to bring in a Sasquatch.

ie: "Moneymaker, Bobo, and others stating that sasquatches imitate coyotes sounds"

Of course they aren't the only ones that think this might be possible, at least folks like Stan Courtney keep an open mind and attempts to cite facts, if you can call recordings interpreted by he, and Sybilla Irwin, Todd Perteet facts.

I heard BoBo saying that Sasquatch probably steal coyote pups and raise them
so they can assist the hairy giants in finding deer to eat. He draws that idea from the Sasquatch seeing people with their dogs. No evidence of such, but they can think it. Another name for it is 'throwing dung at the wall to see if anything sticks'. If that modus-operandi is an accepted practice, then anything that is possible floods into the mix and there seems to be way to much of that going on these days.