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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2007 14:02:58 GMT -5
Hello,
I'm a long time follower, first time poster on this forum. My name is Brian Baillie, I'm an analytical chemist in Calgary and a member of the WCSRO. I'm being forced to take a holiday this year and thought I'd get some squatching in during the trip. I'm going to be just north of Nelson on the lake and was wondering if you guys know of any activity in that area, historical or present and if you have any contacts in the area? Would love to exchange information regarding our research techniques and ideas with you folks. Look forward to hearing from you.
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Post by kootenayspirit on Nov 23, 2007 20:15:56 GMT -5
Since this post has been read 183 times with no response I am assuming there is nobody in this area!! Too bad.....
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Post by Gerry on Nov 23, 2007 22:12:35 GMT -5
Hello Brian! Great to hear from you guys, on the other side of the Rockies. Say "Hi!" to Sean!! To tell the truth, I know of no one working that area of the Kootneys. And that is a shame, as there are more and more reported sightings coming out of that area in the past number of years! Anyone???
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2007 22:57:59 GMT -5
Gerry, Kootney Spirit,
Thanks for the reply, if a little late. I did get some squatching in while on holidays, unfortunetly, there was a large forest fire going on at the time and access into some areas was limited. A beautiful area, I look forward to getting back there next year. If anybody knows of any recent sightings/occurances along the lake, please let me know.
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Post by thomassteenburg on Nov 24, 2007 1:54:56 GMT -5
Good lord, this is way to late, But if you are near Nelson again B.B. You might want to try and contact Robert Milner. He used to investigate reports around his home in Nelson. There is a long history of reports all along Kooteny lake. Robert was for a time very active, but I have not heard from him since 2000. I used to spend time in that area when I researched in western Alberta.
Robert Milner Video Productions Garcia enterprises R.R.3 Nelson B.C. V1L 5P6
Ph, 825-9324
Thats where he was in the late 90s. I can only guess weather or not he is still there.
Thomas Steenburg
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Post by kootenayspirit on Nov 24, 2007 10:45:55 GMT -5
Hey Brian, Gerry & Thomas, It was too bad about the fires this past summer....there are a great many interesting areas around here!! I border crown land on the North Shore of Kootenay Lake and I think there is a huge opportunity for research here. I haven't heard of any encounters since the early 2000's - anyone?? The John Bringsli encounter www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/bringsli.htm at Lemon Creek is foremost in my mind and a few crossings on Hwy 3A towards Ainsworth and Kaslo. My daughter and I were camping this past summer at Garland Bay - beautiful place, on the East Shore you can camp right on the beach! Anyway, we heard some interesting twig snapping as if "something" was walking very slowly. Other than that a few strange sounds around the property. Thomas, some think migration or hibernation is possible what is your take on this? Since a Kootenay winter can be harsh would it be more practical to wait until spring/summer to do some investigating??
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Post by kootenayspirit on Nov 24, 2007 10:47:07 GMT -5
Oh yah, I tried looking up Robert's name and number and there seems to be no listing....
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Post by kootenayspirit on Nov 25, 2007 21:54:37 GMT -5
OK....I feel snubbed....
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Post by Gerry on Nov 25, 2007 22:28:20 GMT -5
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Post by thomassteenburg on Dec 1, 2007 9:05:25 GMT -5
Hey Brian, Gerry & Thomas, It was too bad about the fires this past summer....there are a great many interesting areas around here!! I border crown land on the North Shore of Kootenay Lake and I think there is a huge opportunity for research here. I haven't heard of any encounters since the early 2000's - anyone?? The John Bringsli encounter www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/bringsli.htm at Lemon Creek is foremost in my mind and a few crossings on Hwy 3A towards Ainsworth and Kaslo. My daughter and I were camping this past summer at Garland Bay - beautiful place, on the East Shore you can camp right on the beach! Anyway, we heard some interesting twig snapping as if "something" was walking very slowly. Other than that a few strange sounds around the property. Thomas, some think migration or hibernation is possible what is your take on this? Since a Kootenay winter can be harsh would it be more practical to wait until spring/summer to do some investigating?? The winters in eastern B.C. and western Alberta are much harsher than on the west coast. lots of snow and very cold. It has always been my thought that even though sightings do decrease during the winter months, they do not stop all together. It does seem logical that the Sasquatch would stick to a particular area during the winter months where food can be obtained. And conserve body heat and so on. I don't think they hibernate as bears do since they don't seem to put much body fat during the summer months. I used to go during the winter though I can recall some scary moments getting stuck in deep snow with no other way to come out again. If you do make sure you are prepared for the conditions. I think your chances of encountering a Sasquatch is reduced during the winter but not impossible. People are less likely to be in remote areas during the winter and those who are are usually engaging in activities which make a lot of noise. Thomas steenburg
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Post by superd on Dec 1, 2007 15:41:40 GMT -5
Even if you don't see one , the snow factor for tracks can give you some interesting clues, and a time , fresh vers old.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2007 15:19:56 GMT -5
Thomas,
Yah, I tried to contact Robert in Aug, he wasn't listed anywhere and didn't respond to email. Thank you for the contact though. In terms of hibernation, Roman here at the WCSRO had contact with a gentalman who had found a huge, hand dug hole in the ground. The gentalman stated that he could not see how an animal could have dug the hole, nor was it done by machine. Roman spent a good bit of time looking for it but has not had success so far as the hunter only gave approx. directions. It fits with a theory I have regarding how squatch may winter colder climates. I suspect they must be gatherers and have some sort of shelter (hole or cave) within which they can store food and ride out the coldest days. The temp below ground is still > 0C even during the coldest winter. Then, being highly adapted to their environment, they must settle in areas where there would be access to some sort of local food source through the winter months, such as herds of deer/elk/sheep etc, or access to winter grasses/shrubsetc. Have you ever been out in the forest in the middle of winter and looked around and wondered " what the hell could I eat if I lived out here?" I suspect squatch sets up so that he doesn't have to move to far in the winter. Thus from a migration point of view, and very much like bears, they propably travel as a function of available food sources and not as a function of seeking a milder climate.
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Post by thomassteenburg on Dec 4, 2007 4:33:56 GMT -5
brian. I guess Robert has quit research and gone on to other things. I take it there was no sign of bear claw in or around this hole ether? I agree if the Sasquatch was a migratory animal we would know more about them by now. Yes indeed concerning being in the rocky mountains during the winter months, with most lakes and ponds frozen over and wind chill, stinging even through the parka, One thing that always amassed me though was how sound was much more clear during the cold times. the snap of a stick around a half mile away sounding like it was only ten feet away. again you stand there and wonder how such a creature would survive without moving around. Yet deer, moose, elk , sheep, all do it. Why not the Sasquatch. Perhaps winter rather than man is the biggest heath hazard to this creatures. Winter cold taking a heavy toll of the young and the sick, only the hardest surviving to the next spring. That would explain the creatures rarity.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2007 14:38:22 GMT -5
As I recall, I believe Roman was told the rocks were stacked around the outside of the hole, claw marks were not mentioned. he did state that he used a stick to probe the hole, stuck in 3 m or so and didn't find the end. Why he didn't go in is obvoius I guess. I'll get Roman to weigh in with more details, but as I said, Roman was unable to find the location due to poor directions.
I meant to mention to you, I lived across the street from the Markotic's all my childhood and went to school with Yvonne and Roland. My parents still live there at 34th Ave and see Mrs. Markotic on a regular basis. Validimir once gave me a copy of his book, I don't recall the year perhaps 1980 or so. Wish I'd had an interest in studing sasquatch at the time, he would have been a great source of legend and information.
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Post by thomassteenburg on Dec 5, 2007 5:45:21 GMT -5
Indeed, for many years Vladimir and I were the only two guys in Alberta doing any investigating. He wrote the forward in my first two books. He had a cabin just west of Rocky Mountain house, and we spent many a night there debating the Sasquatch question. Took him into the mountains when ever his heath was able to let him go. Ihad not heard of W.C.S.R.O until after I had moved to B.C, When you see Mrs Markotic again say hello for me?
Thomas Steenburg
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