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Post by Jason C. on Dec 8, 2012 12:54:35 GMT -5
I actually enjoy the 'Finding Bigfoot' show because I think it is good that people learn from the mistakes the BFRO team makes. Opinions welcomed. I agree. Something isn't right about how the photos, and the object in them is not identifiable in any way. Conclusion: They have NOTHING.
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Post by billr on Dec 8, 2012 18:58:49 GMT -5
Some good explanations pointed out there Bill
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Post by Sean V. on Dec 9, 2012 23:19:37 GMT -5
I did not see the Alberta episode, but the fact that they even looked at Todd Standing's garbage photos and listened to his unbelievable stories shows a real lack of judgment. In their defense (I can't believe I am saying that...), they found Standing's trash to be just as worthless as everyone else did.
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Post by Gerry on Dec 10, 2012 23:01:02 GMT -5
There is no such thing as a tv program that has no effect in the eyes of the general public, for sasquatch researchers! It either makes them look deranged, or full of their own self importance. Either way, it is not something attractive to the tv audience. This show can do great harm to sasquatch research. But mainly in the eyes of the public it does more harm to researchers! Which in turn does harm as well to witnesses who do not want to be linked to such fools. If such groups are not going to be authentic, then where are the future witnesses going to come from? Who are they going to trust?
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Post by bigfoothunter on Dec 18, 2012 11:32:13 GMT -5
Did anyone see episode 5 on season 3 of Finding Bigfoot? Some guy thinks he caught a Bigfoot stealing a can of soda from his cooler and had helped itself to a sleeve of cookies to boot. I might add that it was said to be a polite Bigfoot who closes the cooler lid before moving out of the cameras view. (see the fine camera image below) Here is the culprit allegedly helping him or herself to a soda ... When the old timer who sat up the camera was asked if it could have been his son or grandson (who was camped there as well) ... he replied they denied getting into the cooler. It would have been nice for the show to insist on showing the other two campers so to see if one had long dark hair, which looks to possibly be the case in the poor grainy footage that the old timer claimed to have enhanced already. (sigh) Does anyone besides me who has seen this particular show think the old timer pours whiskey over his breakfast cereal instead of milk! And one last remark ... isn't the recreation and the original images shown below turned around. I mean ... would not BoBo be the re-created image? If so, then maybe someone else uses whiskey on their corn flakes as well. (smile) Someone should really tell the Finding Bigfoot Team that when doing a re-creation with BoBo for a size comparison that they really should scale the objects in both images (original vs re-creation) to the same size or else their conclusions will be based on flawed data before they even get started. On a lighter note: How did BoBo come to the conclusion that it must have been a Sasquatch because it walked off into the forest with its soft drink and cookies when all the film seems to show was the subject taking a couple of steps before going off camera???
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Post by duallie on Dec 26, 2012 13:11:12 GMT -5
i think they use bobo to walk around through the scenes that are supposed sightings.
i've never seen one single thing on their shows that convinces me of anything. except that they are there for the $ and getting on tv.
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Post by bigfoothunter on Feb 19, 2013 0:53:55 GMT -5
Someone please tell Moneymaker to stop insinuating that alleged Sasquatch witnesses are not telling the truth when they do not claim they saw a black nose on their Sasquatch!
In season 3, Matt Moneymaker while sitting indoors with the team and the shows Producer is still telling the viewing audience that Sasquatch all have a black nose.
When he makes this erred statement, he is basically calling Bob Gimlin a liar. Moneymaker has obviously never bothered to find out the color of the creature's face in Patterson's film from Bob- himself. Moneymaker has often talked of how he believes Gimlin and how Bob had the best look at the animal, so will some BFRO member please pass this info on to Moneymaker because he cannot keep making statements that he contradicts elsewhere if he wishes to be taken seriously.
The Patterson subject did not have a black nose and for Moneymaker to insinuate that he knows better is just pure nonsense in what looks like an attempt to mislead people into thinking that he is an expert. In this fied, there is no real expert on the Sasquatch!
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Post by shawn on Feb 19, 2013 22:19:11 GMT -5
Personlly I think the show is a joke and I highly doubt people will take these guys seriously I think they make fools of themselves. Using fireworks to attract a sasquatch are you kidding me. I think they found a great way to pay for an extended trip across north america.
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Post by Sean V. on Feb 24, 2013 16:16:06 GMT -5
Someone please tell Moneymaker to stop insinuating that alleged Sasquatch witnesses are not telling the truth when they do not claim they saw a black nose on their Sasquatch! In season 3, Matt Moneymaker while sitting indoors with the team and the shows Producer is still telling the viewing audience that Sasquatch all have a black nose. When he makes this erred statement, he is basically calling Bob Gimlin a liar. Moneymaker has obviously never bothered to find out the color of the creature's face in Patterson's film from Bob- himself. Moneymaker has often talked of how he believes Gimlin and how Bob had the best look at the animal, so will some BFRO member please pass this info on to Moneymaker because he cannot keep making statements that he contradicts elsewhere if he wishes to be taken seriously. The Patterson subject did not have a black nose and for Moneymaker to insinuate that he knows better is just pure nonsense in what looks like an attempt to mislead people into thinking that he is an expert. In this fied, there is no real expert on the Sasquatch! You can't tell him anything, he refuses to listen. He believes that he is the world's foremost expert on Sasquatch. If you try to tell him anything and he takes offense to it, he will immediately begin with his accusations that you are a drug adict and/or alcohalic. Its his only fall back when he realizes that someone isn't taking him seriously. I watched him pull that type of nonsense on the old BFF many years back, under his forum handle "Frontman".
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Post by bigfoothunter on Feb 24, 2013 23:28:14 GMT -5
He believes that he is the world's foremost expert on Sasquatch. If you try to tell him anything and he takes offense to it, he will immediately begin with his accusations that you are a drug adict and/or alcohalic. Its his only fall back when he realizes that someone isn't taking him seriously. I watched him pull that type of nonsense on the old BFF many years back, under his forum handle "Frontman". Moneymaker's claiming he has 25 years of experience tracking Sasquatch and not having found one in the process is little different than bragging that you have 25 years of high school to your credit and have yet to graduate. Anyway, having just spoke with Bob Gimlin again tonight, he said that its ok to tell people that the creature he saw did not have a black nose like a dog and that he doesn't understand why Moneymaker says what he does.
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Post by kakach on Jan 15, 2014 11:30:42 GMT -5
I've often wondered as to why the Finding Bigfoot crew have not found their way to BC, so in doing some googling I found myself here reading this thread. I know it's been awhile since the last contribution but as someone from the general public and someone who watches the show I'll throw in my two bits.
I think in some ways it does hurt the BF world. I'm a believer. I mostly watch to hear the stories at the town hall meetings. Some seem believable, some do not, but none the less I find them interesting. The night investigations and field research they do was interesting for about the first two episodes as they do and say the exact same things every single episode with the exact same results. As someone who watches and reads quite a bit on the subject I can usually see through most of the nonsense. On the other hand, my husband is a nonbeliever, he is constantly teasing me about watching the show. I think for non believers, those on the fence and people with little to no knowledge on the subject the show could potentially hurt the credibility of all bf researchers as a whole.
Does it really matter to the average legit researcher if my husband believes or not? Probably not, but this field of research is scrutinized enough as it is. I can't see the show helping the legitimate world of Bigfoot research.
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Post by billr on Jan 16, 2014 0:25:44 GMT -5
I watched the first episode of the $10,000,000 contest to find bigfoot IMHO this show may be worse I don't know where they found those people
SPOILER ALERT V V V V V
V V V V The teams are sent out to find evidence of bigfoot The team that came back with nothing BECAUSE THEY DID NOT FIND ANYTHING THAT THEY COULD NOT IDENTIFY was eliminated
One team brought back hair samples that turned out to be MOSS. That team stayed One team brought cast back of bear tracks. That team stayed One team brought back scat (collected improperly). That team stayed One team found a cave that bigfoot may have been living in but didn't stay to see if it returned. But they brought some seeds back. That team stayed
The only team that looked like they might know what they were doing was the first eliminated
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Post by billr on Jan 16, 2014 0:37:45 GMT -5
Someone please tell Moneymaker to stop insinuating that alleged Sasquatch witnesses are not telling the truth when they do not claim they saw a black nose on their Sasquatch! In season 3, Matt Moneymaker while sitting indoors with the team and the shows Producer is still telling the viewing audience that Sasquatch all have a black nose. When he makes this erred statement, he is basically calling Bob Gimlin a liar. Moneymaker has obviously never bothered to find out the color of the creature's face in Patterson's film from Bob- himself. Moneymaker has often talked of how he believes Gimlin and how Bob had the best look at the animal, so will some BFRO member please pass this info on to Moneymaker because he cannot keep making statements that he contradicts elsewhere if he wishes to be taken seriously. The Patterson subject did not have a black nose and for Moneymaker to insinuate that he knows better is just pure nonsense in what looks like an attempt to mislead people into thinking that he is an expert. In this fied, there is no real expert on the Sasquatch! I think the mistake you are making Bill is assuming that this show has anything to do with research I think that people that seriously research sasquatch know that Moneymaker's "FACTS" are nothing more than his opinions This show is really just entertainment for the masses and not research I am pretty confident that everyone on this forum knew this already I really don't know if I wished that this current sasquatch fad would go away and the general public would forget about it Or that public interest keeps growing and more scientists get involved
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Post by bigfoothunter on Jan 27, 2014 11:27:16 GMT -5
FWIW .... I meet a very high number of people a year who come to me seeking information about the Sasquatch. This is done through the tours I give through Sasquatch Country Adventures, through public exhibitions during the year where I answer questions for the general public that is set up through the tourist center and event planners, and from speaking to witnesses who either have had or know someone who has had an encounter with something they believe to have been a Sasquatch. Of all things, my most recent inquiry came from the IRS official given the task of auditing my income taxes for the past two years. Out of those groups of people there were some who didn't know any better than to buy into the 'Finding Bigfoot' techniques that crew uses and/or the information they claim to be fact. I certainly won't pretend to have all the answers or possess an all-knowing awareness of what 'everyone' who reads this forum knows as I will leave that up to those who feel they have the ability to determine if its only the serious researcher or not who ever reads this forum. I can only speak from my own personal experiences and post that information for all levels or researchers to read if they choose to do so.
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Post by billr on Jan 27, 2014 21:56:12 GMT -5
Bill I really don't know what you are trying to say there
Are you agreeing with me that Finding Bigfoot is not about research Or Are you disagreeing with me and saying that Finding Bigfoot is proper research
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