'Finding Bigfoot' ... is it hurting the BF world?

[Gerry]

I have watched three shows which I downloaded from the web.
I have never watched another. And I have never admitted in public..mmm...except for Thomas and Bill that such entertainment was of interest to me.
There! Now I have said it! And I can say that today, I am free of such influences!
How did I do this?
I did not want people to think I was a nut job!
Why does the BFRO have to spoil my high??
Legend meets Science was a hallmark production until 'Marble Mountain' footage was presented as something remotely interesting! NOT!

'Memorial Day' footage! Give me a break! I could see the zipper on the first take!
Bill and Thomas's 'Sasquatch's Reflection' was the only thing that I have ever seen in my life which supported sane thought and reason.Sigh..!

[sebastian]

Finding BF is like even if they didn't find BF, they found all places they visited very squatchy.

[Richard]

Interesting ... when the hoaxers mock the hoaxers ...


Todd Standing · Subscribe · University of Alberta:

Well congrats to the "Finding Bigfoot' team and producers. After being on hundreds of newspaper, radio and tv interviews and shows, the finding bigfoot production is the worst I have EVER seen. Their production company is Called"Snake oil productions" for a reason. They have no intention of finding bigfoot and they couldn't possiblly be stupid enough to believe they could. They literally filmed me in a spot they choose where cows are grazing all around. And they couldn't even sneek up on the cows! That is what the morons are hearing "in the Candian wilds" that they cannot identify. They are right when they say it is not coyotes making that sound. Its cows they are hearing. That is what happens when you go bigfoot hunting by a ranch you idiots. I could right a list of 500 reasons these people will never film a deaf three legged moose in live action. Never mind Bigfoot.
Here is a link to a good tv show that did a real piece on my bigfoot work.
youtu.be/6RetQRg7J5Y

From:

animal.discovery.com/tv/finding-bigfoot/episode-guide.html

[westerncanadian]

Todd Standing has real trouble with spelling let alone Sasquatch. Who's the moron here? Not Finding Bigfoot, they're just naive. Todd Standing is a dolt whose idiotic attempts at deception are a dismal failure. Pathetic.

[Sean V.]

Jul 11, 2012 18:49:33 GMT -5 westerncanadian said:

Todd Standing has real trouble with spelling let alone Sasquatch. Who's the moron here? Not Finding Bigfoot, they're just naive. Todd Standing is a dolt whose idiotic attempts at deception are a dismal failure. Pathetic.

I agree.

[Richard]

I don't think The FindingBigfoot team were impressed by him either:

"We met Todd on a rainy day in an empty campground where several bigfoot encounters had happended over the previous several years. He refused to take a jacket or use any rain gear, claiming it was not cold. He was soon shivering in a wet, cotton shirt, maintaining his position that it was a nice day."

Taken from:

www.northamericanbigfoot.com/search/label/Field%20Notes

Some people are simply frauds - I think Standing may fall into that category.

[bigfoothunter]

Jul 12, 2012 10:54:37 GMT -5 Richard said:

I don't think The FindingBigfoot team were impressed by him either:

"We met Todd on a rainy day in an empty campground where several bigfoot encounters had happended over the previous several years. He refused to take a jacket or use any rain gear, claiming it was not cold. He was soon shivering in a wet, cotton shirt, maintaining his position that it was a nice day."

Taken from:

www.northamericanbigfoot.com/search/label/Field%20Notes

Some people are simply frauds - I think Standing may fall into that category.

There is no doubt in my mind that TS is a fraud. I seem to recall that TS said that the reason why he only shot a few seconds of film of his alleged 'century on guard' was because people won't except film as proof of anything anyhow.

So to recap: TS claims that one has to wonder through a vast wilderness full of dangerous mountain lions, bears, and etc., even crawl on his belly for a mile or two up a streams (alone, but too dangerous to take the Finding Bigfoot team with him to the alleged filming location) so to get close enough to these creatures so to film a three seconds of footage that he knows that no one will accept it as proof of the creature's existence anyway. (What a load of crap!!!) Would not the alleged 'century' have to get up and walk away? Could not the alleged Sasquatch eventually not do something unexpected that may be so remarkable as not to be able to apply it to someone in a fur suit?? For me TS's excuse he gave as if there was no sense in uneccesarily wasting film was as big of a hoax than his subject he had on the film.

Yes, this was the one time that the cast showed that they could show common sense when they had to. However, the group knew of Standings reputation in the Sasquatch Community beforehand which makes me wonder if they primarily chose TS so to make it appear that they are not always gullablle.

[Sheldon]

Hey those of us up here in Canada could make a far superior program right? Why not begin?

[Sean V.]

Jul 12, 2012 11:38:53 GMT -5 bigfoothunter said:

So to recap: TS claims that one has to wonder through a vast wilderness full of dangerous mountain lions, bears, and etc., even crawl on his belly for a mile or two up a streams (alone, but too dangerous to take the Finding Bigfoot team with him to the alleged filming location) so to get close enough to these creatures so to film a three seconds of footage that he knows that no one will accept it as proof of the creature's existence anyway. (What a load of crap!!!) Would not the alleged 'century' have to get up and walk away? Could not the alleged Sasquatch eventually not do something unexpected that may be so remarkable as not to be able to apply it to someone in a fur suit?? For me TS's excuse he gave as if there was no sense in uneccesarily wasting film was as big of a hoax than his subject he had on the film.

Yes, this was the one time that the cast showed that they could show common sense when they had to. However, the group knew of Standings reputation in the Sasquatch Community beforehand which makes me wonder if they primarily chose TS so to make it appear that they are not always gullablle.

Also, according to Standing: "If you come across a fresh kill or fail to recognoze predatory behaviour..... You Will Die!

There were so many "You Will Die" things on his first website, that it became a common to see people mock them on various forums.

[Sean V.]

Aug 1, 2012 15:45:52 GMT -5 Sean V. said:

Jul 12, 2012 11:38:53 GMT -5 bigfoothunter said:

So to recap: TS claims that one has to wonder through a vast wilderness full of dangerous mountain lions, bears, and etc., even crawl on his belly for a mile or two up a streams (alone, but too dangerous to take the Finding Bigfoot team with him to the alleged filming location) so to get close enough to these creatures so to film a three seconds of footage that he knows that no one will accept it as proof of the creature's existence anyway. (What a load of crap!!!) Would not the alleged 'century' have to get up and walk away? Could not the alleged Sasquatch eventually not do something unexpected that may be so remarkable as not to be able to apply it to someone in a fur suit?? For me TS's excuse he gave as if there was no sense in uneccesarily wasting film was as big of a hoax than his subject he had on the film.

Yes, this was the one time that the cast showed that they could show common sense when they had to. However, the group knew of Standings reputation in the Sasquatch Community beforehand which makes me wonder if they primarily chose TS so to make it appear that they are not always gullablle.

Also, according to Standing: "If you come across a fresh kill or fail to recognoze predatory behaviour..... You Will Die!

There were so many "You Will Die" things on his first website, that it became a common to see people mock them on various forums.

[Sean V.]

Aug 1, 2012 15:45:52 GMT -5 Sean V. said:

Jul 12, 2012 11:38:53 GMT -5 bigfoothunter said:

So to recap: TS claims that one has to wonder through a vast wilderness full of dangerous mountain lions, bears, and etc., even crawl on his belly for a mile or two up a streams (alone, but too dangerous to take the Finding Bigfoot team with him to the alleged filming location) so to get close enough to these creatures so to film a three seconds of footage that he knows that no one will accept it as proof of the creature's existence anyway. (What a load of crap!!!) Would not the alleged 'century' have to get up and walk away? Could not the alleged Sasquatch eventually not do something unexpected that may be so remarkable as not to be able to apply it to someone in a fur suit?? For me TS's excuse he gave as if there was no sense in uneccesarily wasting film was as big of a hoax than his subject he had on the film.

Yes, this was the one time that the cast showed that they could show common sense when they had to. However, the group knew of Standings reputation in the Sasquatch Community beforehand which makes me wonder if they primarily chose TS so to make it appear that they are not always gullablle.

Also, according to Standing: "If you come across a fresh kill or fail to recognoze predatory behaviour..... You Will Die!

There were so many "You Will Die" things on his first website, that it became a common to see people mock them on various forums.

[Gerry]

Once again the good people at Animal Planet want to pump local resources ( myself and another ) for interview leads and sighting reports!
As loath as I am to treat these people with any kind of respect., there is a part of me wanting to know exactly what these people are looking for.
You must understand, to me "Finding Bigfoot" is to wrestling..what the WWF was.
A joke in production!
A number of us involved in the BCSCC were light years ahead in a tv production. But instead of a documentary, these people only want the equivelant of WWF 'grudge matches'!

I have yet to respond their requests for information..seeing that already their needs do not involve any local parties, or individuals unless they can supplu fodder for their plot lines.
In other words..they want to come here and parody local investigations and evidence. For they have none of their own.
So the question is..how much do I..and the one other approached for information prostitute ourselves just to have out names appear in the credits?
God forbid an appearance in front of the camera! It will not happen in my case!

"Monster Ally" was enough for me!

[Richard]

Gerry - I can speak from personal experience with Animal Planet and Finding Bigfoot in terms of location scouting and treating local "help" - my advice: I would stay clear. Please feel free to PM or email me (or call) and I can go into further details.
Richard

[princeton12]

what a ridiculous piece of crap that show is.
...not worth the film is isn't shot on.

[bigfoothunter]

I actually enjoy the 'Finding Bigfoot' show because I think it is good that people learn from the mistakes the BFRO team makes. In a recent show that took place in Vermont, they investigated some game camera pics and decided that the object of question in one of the images was most likely a mother Sasquatch with young. To find out the subjects size ... they used BoBo for scale and their methods were crude at best.

Below are the images used from the show. The witness claimed that his camera took three pictures. Two pictures were of a coyote, while the third photo was something that he could not explain. (see below)


Several things were never discussed on camera that should have been of interest to the group if they were to be thorough in my view. The first obvious problem was that the witness said his camera took three pictures as if to imply these were all the photos taken and they were in succesion. However, there are apples missing from the ground between the coyote picture and the alleged squating Sasquatch picture. I cannot expplain how apples were removed from the ground directly in front of the camera and it not take another photo showing the culprit. It leads me to think there were other photos that were withheld from the group.

The next thing was that the two cameras (the witness camera and the BFRO test shot camera) were obviously not set at the same distance to the location of the fur tree branches seen on the right side of the photo. One camera is much higher elevated than the other, thus changing the distance from the lens to the area in question. The game camera is more on a horiontal plane to the tree branches while the BFRO camera is looking downward at the same location. This changes the focal length between the two pictures. Even the tips of the branches next to BoBo appear far smaller than those seen in the game camera. (see below)


The two different camera heights as demonstrated below in the screen captures ... to check for scale should have caused the team to make the tree branch tips as close to the same size as possible and then compare BoBo to the alleged creatures size. This however was not done on the show.


To demonstrate how these variances effected how big something is seen in the field of view on the picture ... note how small the coyote in the game photo looks in relation to BoBo's hat in the BFRO photo. Just a few feet difference made the coyote look very small in comparison to BoBo's head. The opposite would occur if something like an own landed in front of the lens and was a foot or two closer to the camera than BoBo.

It is my opinion that the subject in question was a bird of prey and most likely an owl. The tree tips on the branches are sharp while the subject is badly blurred which tells me it was in motion. The classic heart shape wing appearence also points to the subject being a bird.


Below are some examples of owl postures as well as the effects of motion blur.


Opinions welcomed.