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Post by thomassteenburg on Oct 15, 2006 2:15:31 GMT -5
Today October 14th, 2006, Bill Miller and myself went to have a look at the possible footprints found by Bear Hunter on September 20th. Although they showed signs of weathering they were in surprisingly good shape for impression probably a month old by now. Bear hunter gave directions to me over the phone and by judging from his photo with the lake in the background I knew it was not to distance from the location of a track find last year. About an hour after bill and i arrived on the Sean Bear hunter with his son arrived to show us around. But lets get strait to the possibler footprints. I feel that these impressions are indeed footprints of some kind and not the result of erosion, falling rocks or any other natural explanation. However there was no evidence to conclude that they were made by a Sasquatch. At the same time I found nothing which suggested they were not made by a Sasquatch ether! Someone or something did walk up this road embankment and left tracks behind which by the passing of time more resemble simple scuff marks than anything else. Interesting was the fact that each impression was just under 15 inches in length. Also each impression was 15 inches from each other in a narrow straddle, which ascended the embankment at a slight off center course. Average width of all the impressions was 5 inches across. Some stones in the impressions for some reason were not pushed into the ground as one would expect when a heavy foot comes down applying so many pounds of pressure purr square inch then suddenly releasing the pressure as the foot lifts off?? These are not stones which had rolled down hill and were simply sitting on the surface of the impression, but stones which were on the ground when what ever it was stepped there. Now the up hill slope may be an explanation for this. When Bear hunter first posted his find he said it was raining that day? Now this was one of the dry est Septembers in many years however I did check with the environment office and indeed 8 millimeters of rain fell in the area on September 20th. Also the history of Sasquatch reports in this area and as well at nearby Kirkland creek. It is indeed possible for a Sasquatch to have made these marks in the embankment, It is also possible that some Person made them or a bear for that matter, though they did appear to me to be of a narrow straddle, as you would expect from something bipedal. But unfortunately to much time and exposer to the elements have removed any tell tail sign as to the track makers identity.
Thomas Steenburg
P.S. I did want to included a few photos with this post but it doesn't seem to be working??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2006 22:24:42 GMT -5
NEW TRACKS FOUND
On Saturday, after we met Thomas and Bill we checked out a clearcut above the one containing our suspected prints. At the top of this clearcut we discovered a row of about 14 10 inch tracks on a gravel bank beside the road. What happened next is an interesting psychological phenomenon. My son insisted that they were boot tracks and didn't want me to stop (the first track he looked at did have a heel indentation). He had walked past and examined them before I drove down the road to pick him up. I stopped to examine them anyway with the intent of making some tracks myself to judge their age. I looked at one of the last tracks in the line and immediately saw that it was extremely fresh and crisp and showed a crescent of toes (no individual toes though) followed by a hump which dipped to the ball of the foot and back to the heel with little taper. This is where things got screwy ???. I simply proceeded to the next part of my plan to make some similar tracks for comparison. I did this with my son still insisting they were boot tracks. We then got in the truck and left!? I didn't check any other tracks or compare them to the tracks I made??? My son now admits he saw the toes too.
By noon Sunday things were starting to bother me and by evening I finally called Thomas to report this and see if he and Bill had been there - they hadn't. After a mostly sleepless night I left work early on monday to verify what I thought I had seen. Unfortunately after 2 days of rain only one track (not the one I had examined Saturday) showed the toe detail. I made a cast and am now waiting for it to dry before brushing off the gravel. I will try to post pictures later.
After 2 days, the tracks I had made were not nearly as deep as the barefoot ones although they were almost the same length. I measured the remains of my tracks and they are almost identical to my boots so they haven't changed after the 2 days.
I suspect we scared a juvenile sasquatch out of the clearcut when we arrived. Maybe once I accept the fact the Sasquatch exists, I won't suffer from the brain hiccup I(we) had.
Anyone know what this psychological phenomonen is?
Bear Hunter
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2006 21:52:21 GMT -5
Here are some pictures of the latest tracks. If only I had kept my senses and taken pictures when they were fresh. Row of 14 tracks. More distant tracks are ours. Track 4 was the only track worth casting. Toes are not eroded in, heel is. Track 11 was the one I examined when it was fresh and was way crisper but is now filled with loose gravel. It was so fresh it freaked me out! Two animals (juvenile and adult?) climbed up this bank just north of tracks possibly to escape into the forest. View down to the lake and where first possible adult tracks were. View to the northwest. Do they live up there? Something to do while the plaster sets.
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Post by sebastian on Oct 17, 2006 23:04:54 GMT -5
Hi Mr. Bear Hunter and Thomas, I have free time this sat. Would you guys like to go check out the area again? My email is: thunderkiss59@hotmail.com or phone 604-417-7009. cheers, sebastian
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Post by sebastian on Oct 17, 2006 23:06:00 GMT -5
Just saw my cell phone, Hi Zoli, wanna go this sat too?
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Post by vilnoori on Oct 18, 2006 0:50:52 GMT -5
You guys are gonna find me a cave, right? right? bones....remember footprints and pictures are all very nice but bones are the thing ya can't refute!
And..be careful, remember mamma's can get edgy when juveniles are being apparently threatened and tracked.
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Post by sebastian on Oct 18, 2006 22:39:51 GMT -5
Got your email, Bear Hunter. Thanks for the direction. Someone just forwarded me a recent report from Hale Creek (westside of Harrison as well). Only sound (whooping ) was heard. I will head out there with Thomas this Sat. Next weekend is good too. Looking forward to meet you.
cheers, seb
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2006 22:48:47 GMT -5
When I drove past these tracks initally the last 3 tracks caught my attention. The second last track (the last in the line paralelling the road) was very lightly depressed compared to the rest. The last track is at 90 degrees to the rest and heads back onto the road. The third last track did not show any unusual disturbance showing that whatever made the tracks was extremely agile. I figured the foot was lifted from the second last position and swung down toward the road. At this point I whimsically speculated to myself that a young sasquatch had been scolded by it's mother not to leave tracks HaHa. After pickup up my son and determining he had not made the tracks (he said they were boot tracks) I stopped and headed straight to the third last one. I was quite litterally shocked when it was a beatifully crisp sasquatch track and as the last doubt about the existence of sasquatch left, so did my senses. If only I had taken pictures. The one cast I got 2 days later is not nearly as crisp but does have some interesting detail. I have been unable to get a good picture of the cast to hilite it's 3 contours. I will have Thomas evaluate it after I return from a short hunting trip.
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Post by vilnoori on Oct 19, 2006 14:09:58 GMT -5
That's the best I've seen yet. It does look very slender, with quite splayed toes. Nice clear midtarsal break, if this is really what it looks like...golly, I hope so! No measuring stick in the picture for reference? A ruler? Tape measure? (I know, you were so excited...)
Really looking forward to hearing the report, guys.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2008 18:47:18 GMT -5
I visited the site of the first set of tracks I found on harrison west on monday to set up an all night listening post. I arrived in the dark and when I got out of my vehicle was greeted with hoots or low whistles from a forest edge about 150 yds away. Might have been coyotes but who knows. I didn't have my recorder set up yet but thought I might be in for an interesting night. Nothing exciting happened just the occassional sound and a couple of single note bird whistles. The next morning I hiked further up the road in the direction of the second set of tracks (the fresh ones) and last years clearcut and saw nothing out of the ordinary. On the drive down there were two sets of weathered tracks about 50 feet from the original ones. It seems they are still active in the area. Sebastion, did you find anything up there?
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Post by sebastian on Sept 21, 2008 17:56:56 GMT -5
Hi Bear Hunter,
Didn't go to the site this year. No news from the Harrison west this year neither! You know, coyotes can't whistle, can you describe the sound a little more?
cheers, seb
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Post by lorelei on Sept 22, 2008 15:29:19 GMT -5
I've heard of a wolf whistle though! Are you going to be at the Oct 4th meeting Bear Hunter? I'd be interested to hear what the whistle was like as well. This does seem like it might be an interesting place to keep a close watch on.
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Post by vilnoori on Sept 22, 2008 23:01:07 GMT -5
It might be useful to review online owl hoots and nocturnal bird calls, as well as coyote vocals, before jumping to a conclusion that a Sasquatch is sounding off. If you do eliminate them, then you may very well have something!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2008 23:29:09 GMT -5
The whistle or hoot was a rapid sequence of about 6 to 8 owllish hoots, shorter in duration than a typical owl with no space for inhaling between them. An owl would not typically shut up after just one sequence and my recorder picked up no owls at night. It may not have been sasquatch but is something I have never heard before and I know there were some sasquatch up there 2 years ago. I have heard vague reports of other activity in the Kirkland Creek area, can anyone provide a summary of other activity up here? I would like to be at the track casting meeting but will be out hunting that weekend. During the previous meeting I couldn't pass up an opportunity to go sailing in the Broughtons. Saw lots of dolphins, porpoises, a whale, sea lion, black bear, grizzly but no sasquatch. Saw an interesting black wave and almost landed my first halibut. That sighting report from Houston isn't too far from where I'm hunting. You can bet I keep my eyes open for things other than moose. I haven't checked out the prince george sasquatch site in a while, I must remember to do that before I go. I'm going to try to get up there again saturday night.
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Post by vilnoori on Sept 23, 2008 14:35:46 GMT -5
Very interesting. I heard a hoot on my Elk Mountain climb, it was about 2 PM on a bright sunny afternoon and it was only one hoot! Also there was a lot of moving about on the periphery of our vision, brush moving, branches being rattled, that kind of thing. I suspected it was our furry friends, but with no actual sighting it is unfortunately inconclusive. Oh well.
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