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Post by hotdog on Nov 7, 2009 14:52:07 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone here has seen this yet but Larry Battson gave Bob Gimlin and John Green the opportunity to shed some light on what actually happened in their own words. Listening to the people that were actually involved is far more believable that listening to people that are drawing conclusions from one or two frames from and old damaged film. Here's the link to the show. www.blogtalkradio.com/Larry-Battson/2009/11/06/Larry-Battsons-Wild
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Post by rastaman on Nov 8, 2009 1:41:05 GMT -5
Listened to the show last night. Sure was fascinating to hear from the people that were there over 40 years ago. To paraphrase John green. "Why would I spend 40 years of my life looking for proof of these creatures if I knew where a group of them were buried?"
Why does MK Davies and his gullible followers continue with their dissecting of a film taken over 40 years ago, when they should be running to that massacre site if they really believe it occurred and uncover the bones to prove their theory? The mystery would have been solved by now. What a bunch of buffoons!!
The interview is in their archives now. You sure have to thank Larry Battson for his unbiased inquiry
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Post by bigfoothunter on Nov 8, 2009 8:52:17 GMT -5
The latest 'evidence' posted over there by Monster Hunter- Quote: "When you skin a deer or large animal...what do you do?...you remove your watch and rings to keep them clean of blood... "The real kicker is that these pictures are from MK- how did he come to the conclusion that he wasn't wearing his watch? Did he just completely ignore all the other frames of the film?? As dumb as the 'watch' angle is, it's almost funny how desperate they're getting- really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. NOTE: I have sent Lansdale the majority of the debunkings here and to date he hasn't posted a single one on his board. For an organization that claims to search for the truth, they have no interest in debating any of their finds or opposing viewpoints that will hurt their massacre theory. They are more determined to paint a false picture of what happened than the truth. Lansdale (Monster Hunter) posted on his forum that I didn't know the subject matter well enough to be allowed to comment on the issue there. He said that I just needed to watch and learn a few things or words to that effect. I am reminded of something Smokey Crabtree once said about 'idiots' .... "Some people couldn't poor piss out of a boot even if the directions were written on the heel." I recently spoke to Smokey about the one called Monster Hunter and all I can say to stay within the guidelines of the rules here is that Smokey wasn't impressed with this guy at all (and that is putting it mildly). About the 'boot' remark Smokey made ... These bafoons have been told time and time again about the effects of multi-generational over-contrasted images and the pitfalls of trying use them to make accurate photo interpretations. Below is one such example that anyone could test for themselves. The blur has caused details to disappear from the image. Perhaps Lansdale would want others to believe that the vertical line on the window frame was removed so to skin and field dress a Sasquatch. (sigh~) Bill Miller Bigfoot Field Research
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2009 21:50:16 GMT -5
Well apparently I've been banned from the GCBRO website (in my very short time there). I was as tactful as I could muster and abided by their rules, yet was still banned- go figure. I asked for hard evidence of a dead sasquatch- something they simply do not have. He kept dancing around it and avoided my question like the plague no matter how many times I asked. I guess putting him on the spot for hard evidence was too much to ask for. I answered his barrage of questions - everything from his single dog print to his 'bullet exit wounds' (that amazingly have no blood), to the muzzle flash (which we already determined was impossible). His response was to try and assassinate my character and then ban me for no reason other than to silence me. Some of my posts never made it onto the board at all- especially the one I made to MK Davis asking for the same hard evidence. My banning came right after I made that post (since Lansdale had to approve my posts before they showed up- this is no coincidence). He would not allow me to question MK himself. So much for allowing debate and seeking the truth huh?
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Post by bigfoothunter on Nov 9, 2009 1:35:07 GMT -5
The GCBRO is governed by an individual who can't get a venue anywhere else, thus he is going to do everything he can to protect his space.
I personally wouldn't worry about that site much other than to expose Lansdale's idiocy. I would just go back and read the things he says and copy and paste it elsewhere so he'll have to come out in the open among his peers to debate it. If he chooses not to debate it, then he looks like a mere propagandist much like Baghdad Bob was during the Gulf War.
The guy is so out of touch with reality that he remains oblivious to the fact that he really has no supporters. Who knows ... maybe he does like McDonald did and his supporters are nothing more than himself using false names. One thing is for sure and its that he isn't going to leave the safety of his forum because if he did ... he'd be subjected to being made to look like a fool in a much larger degree than he has done himself.
Bill Miller Bigfoot Field Research
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2009 1:23:28 GMT -5
The guy bans me from posting and now he's throwing insults at me on his board that I can't respond to. He also prevented me from questioning MK Davis by deleting my posts to him- protecting him like a cult figure head. So much for the fair discussion and debate.. ;D Not only can't this guy abide by his own forum rules, but his narrow one-sided viewpoint seems to be the running theme in everything he does. The funny thing is he still talks to and questions the opposition even though we're all banned from posting. I guess the silence gives the impression that we're 'speechless'..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2009 3:16:47 GMT -5
Anyways...here's the latest going on. Remember this picture? After all the talk about how pristine and true his transparencies are it ends up changing to this: It took MK this long to realize that there were color issues with it? I told Lansdale previously that the pictures were obviously suffering from what's called 'pinking'. This is when the color starts to 'turn' and degrade on old film stock, developing a pinkish hue. Of course Lansdale called me an idiot for thinking that. Today Lansdale states: " I really don't think this still has a pinking effect". I guess he doesn't understand what "color corrected" means. It wouldn't have been "corrected" if the color hadn't turned. They're still under the idea that it's just a hole and not part of the creek, and that the water is still red with blood. I don't know about you but that sure looks to be clear water splashing over rocks in that picture- hardly something you'd see in a stagnant pool, let alone a pool of "blood".
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Post by bigfoothunter on Nov 13, 2009 1:10:12 GMT -5
Lansdale is an embarrassment to the Sasquatch community in my view. That opinion is shared by (to use a similar phrase he uses) 'more people than I guess as to the number of.' For instance, Lansdale still calls the pilot in the Blue Creek Mountain footage 'Bob Titmus' despite my writing that Titmus was very short compared to John Green's height. Below is a photo taken of the PNW Expedition showing both Green and Titmus in front of the camera. (see below) That photo was taken around 1958. Photos of Titmus with Sly McCoy in 1963 are also found in 'Meet the Sasquatch' ... not to mention the photo of Titmus holding the Skeena River cast made nine years after the Blue Creek Mountain footage. By 1967, Titmus was 48 years old and showing far more aging than the young pilot seen in the Dahinden film of 1967. Lansdale has failed on all accounts to interpret images and to investigate their data so to be accurate in the things he says. Bill Miller Bigfoot Field Research
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Post by bigfoothunter on Nov 13, 2009 12:05:10 GMT -5
Lansdale is what a lot of people would refer to as an 'IDIOT'! I would go a step further and say that the man is a dishonest idiot to boot. The reason for thinking this is in the images he supports and the way they were apparently deceptively done. We have already seen that Davis manipulated the colors within the film images to make things appear to have happened only to support an erroneous claim he was trying to push for what ever twisted reasons he had. Here is one such example of deception. Below is a comparison that was offered in support of the pilot in the Blue Creek Mountain footage (BCM) being Bob Titmus ... It is fair to say that a much earlier photo of a younger Bob Titmus when seen at a certain angle could resemble the pilot in Dahinden's film. This is much like saying that a father looked like his son in his younger days, but what in God's name has that have to do with the issue as to whether Titmus was the young looking man in the Blue Creek Mountain footage? Below is what Bob Titmus looked like in 1963 - 4 years before the BCM and Patterson/Gimlin films were taken ... :hysterical: The genius of Lansdale is something else, but is he really that inept or is he just that dishonest? Well I am reminded that this is a guy who claims to have seen so many Bigfoot type creatures on his families 1500 acres and hasn't a single photo to support his amazing declaration, he has certainly earned the right to be suspected as a blatant fibber to say it politely. But then if he really hasn't thought to carry a camera with him after the first dozen or so sightings in Monster Land up to having had so many to date that he can't even offer a total count, then maybe the term 'IDIOT' is justified too. I personally would rather have it said of me that I was mentally challenged than to be seen as dishonest ... and the worst case scenario is that someone believe that I was both! Here is a photo of Titmus, Green, and Dahinden when with the PNW Expedition 10 years before the Patterson/Gimlin film was taken. I once tried to point out that Green and the pilot were very close to the same height in the Blue Creek Mountain footage and Lansdale scoffed at it. Those who knew Dahinden and Green was well aware that Rene was much shorter than John. Dahinden was taller than Bob Titmus. About the only person that Titmus was taller than was Roger Patterson. The difference in the height between Green and Titmus was quite noticeable ... Lansdale doesn't address the other criteria used to make a logical and rational determination as to whether the man he believes to be Titmus is actually him or not, but instead alludes to these types of less than honest attempts to sell the two men as the same person. (see below) What appears to have been done here is that a head on view of Titmus is used against a very poor and blurry image of the pilot and not even in a good profile. The purpose could only have been to show that both men had a receding hairline and that was good enough for the one called Monster Hunter/Lansdale. The fact that the earlier comparison for Titmus being the man in the BCM footage showed a much younger Bob Titmus ... and the latter comparison opted to use the post 1967 photo of the much older looking Bob Titmus - the boob supporting them hadn't noticed that one canceled out the other. One cannot have it both ways. The only thing that matters is whether or not Titmus in 1967 looked like the young man with the receding hairline in the 1967 BCM footage. It may be worth sharing this old saying once again for it was if it was written for someone like Lansdale and it goes ... 'The difference between a smart person and a stupid person is that the stupid person will never see they were wrong.' Of course this only applies to Lansdale if one believes he isn't purposely being deceptive in this matter. That conclusion can be left up to those who will read about all this nonsense for years to come. Bill Miller Bigfoot Field Research
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Post by Sean V. on Nov 19, 2009 23:48:24 GMT -5
Lansdale is what a lot of people would refer to as an 'IDIOT'! I would go a step further and say that the man is a dishonest idiot to boot. Come on, Bill. There is no need to start calling people names. And I do not think the Admins & Mods here would appreciate it much either. If Mr. Lansdale means nothing to you, then any insults he may have made should mean just as little. Don't let it get to you. And no, I am not a supporter of Marlon Davis's "Massacre" theory. I just about choked when I first heard it mentioned, but let people believe whatever they want.
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Post by bigfoothunter on Nov 20, 2009 6:14:42 GMT -5
Name calling??? Maybe the definition of the word 'Idiot' might be of assistance ...
idiot [ˈɪdɪət] n
2. a foolish or senseless person
I personally think that using that word to describe Lansdale's behavior is quite fitting and certainly not as bad as other names that come to mind. He earns the 'idiocy' award in my view when he allows people to come onto his property to allegedly Bigfoot hunt in the name of Science while carrying alcohol in one hand and a gun in the other.
Bill Miller Bigfoot Field Research
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Post by Sean V. on Nov 24, 2009 3:21:46 GMT -5
Aye, I will agree with you on the Firearms & Alcohal part. They do not mix, it is a foolish thing to do. But calling someone an idiot or any of the other "lesser" curse words is just setting the stage for a flame war.
But I'm not going to get into an arguement with you over something small (and off topic on my part). Its not worth the headache for either of us.
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Post by bigfoothunter on Nov 24, 2009 7:04:02 GMT -5
Aye, I will agree with you on the Firearms & Alcohal part. They do not mix, it is a foolish thing to do. But calling someone an idiot or any of the other "lesser" curse words is just setting the stage for a flame war. Yes ... it certainly was a "FOOLISH" thing to do. We may have to agree to disagree. Dictionary: fool·ish (flsh) adj. 2. Resulting from stupidity Dictionary: id·i·ot (ĭd'ē-ət) 2. A foolish or stupid person.
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Post by vilnoori on Nov 26, 2009 14:56:33 GMT -5
Bill its the difference between telling someone "that was a dumb thing to do" and calling a person dumb. One is an observation. The other is a slur. A person who continously makes slurs will not be welcome on many forums, no matter how smart and talented (or right) they are, because their personality will be seen as abrasive and unfriendly. It is a social skill we acquire with maturity to differentiate between the two and control our tendencies to lump people based on their unwise choices and actions. In the old time honoured phrase, love the sinner, hate the sin.
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Post by bigfoothunter on Dec 5, 2009 18:02:48 GMT -5
Yes Vilnoori ... we all do idiotic things from time to time. But if we continue to make the same idiotic mistake over and over and can't learn from it, then it makes us out to be an idiot. That's the difference from where I sit and what you're saying. For instance, Monster Hunter (Lansdale) still tells people that the pilot in the BCM footage is Bob Titmus. The pilot is almost as tall as the 6'4" John Green and Titmus was between 5'6" and 5'7". The only thing shorter than Titmus in the BCM film had he really been there is the dog ... and that may not be true if the dog was to stand up on its hind legs. (smile~) By 1958, the hair around the ears of Titmus was already turning white. By 1963, Titmus was showing advanced signs of aging and the hair on the sides of his head was white. The pilot has no deep lines on his face and his hair is not white anywhere around his ears. Now Lansdale has been shown this stuff and continues to tell folks that it is Bob Titmus in the BCM film. Lansdale continues to tell people that the dog attacked Titmus because Titmus had blood all over his hands. Combine that with his countless alleged Bigfoot sightings, but never thinking to have a camera on his person, or his allowing his group to drink booze and carry guns while allegedly hunting Bigfoot in the name of science, then what other conclusion can one reach when Lansdale's behavior goes beyond making an idiotic mistake in my view to continually being an idiot, thus I respectably disagree with you on this one. Bill Bigfoot Field Research
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