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[thomassteenburg]

Check out the you tube post "Harrison Lake Reflections"
My ol buddy Gabe with Bruce Mc'Donald having a heart to heart on the beach at lake Harrison.
I would have attached it here but it doesn't seem to work?? Funny stuff.

Thomas Steenburg

[lorelei]

This had me cracking up!

[sebastian]

The above video is bought to you by the maker of this video:




And I don't think that I have to explain any further.

[lorelei]

Wow, you really don't need any further explanation with those folks. And I seriously 'lol'ed when 'gabe' was waxing bitterly about lack of education in this field, the described "bindernagels" PhD in "something, whatever". I wish I had majored in that field.

It's almost poetic that these two creepers found each other... then decide to share a 'broke back mountain' night in a tent telling scary stories.

[vilnoori]

Things that make you go hmmm. Don't know what it has to do with sasquatch, though.

[bigfoothunter]

The tale that Gabe told whereas I allegedly told him that Steenburg took off after a blackbear firing his shotgun is a complete fabrication on Gabe's part. Steenburg and I saw what I first thought was a grizzly, but ended up being a cinnamon colored black bear. What made this bear unique was its horrific looking black face. Steenburg got off the safety of the Polaris and took his shotgun with him so to hopefully get a closer look at the bear.

This bear was up a hill about 20 feet away when I saw it looking down on us and it was making a nervous aggitated type sound and after Tom was on foot for a few minutes - I remarked that we should leave the animal alone and let him go on its way - which we did just that.

In the 4 years we have went together into the bush ... Steenburg has never fired a single shot . Gabe lied - and that I will submit to a polygraph over. Shame on those who make judgments without first caring to get the facts first.

As far as my qualifications in analyzing Brisson's photographs ... all one needs is a grade school education to know that if a camera moves closer to an object, then that object must grow in size equally with the rest of the photo. Brisson's alleged head stayed the same size when the cameras distance had changed.

To date no one has demonstrtated any differently as to the laws of physics that were used in my analogy. Seems that if they could - they would have.

Another correction to McDonald's interview with 'Gabe the story teller' who thinks the Sasquatch goes in and out of dimensions .. To say that I have been looking for Sasquatch for 30 years is another gross error. I first came to the PNW ten years ago - only for a month or so at a time until three years ago.

I lease a place in town where I use my 5th wheel as my base. I pay my own expenses and have never taken a penny profit for my efforts. Those are the facts.

The person McDonald was speaking with goes by the name 'Gabe'. McDonald once again shows his tabloid mentality by putting up hearsay on Youtube without bothering to check the facts beforehand. To date, McDonald has not asked me a single question to the story that Gabe had told him.

Bill Miller
Bigfoot Field Research

[sebastian]

Well, the video is now removed by the user.

[lorelei]

Of course it's been taken down. Bill had an excellent point about Bruce MacDonald's 'tabloid' journalism. Not once was Thomas Steenburg or Bill Miller approached by this individual to discuss Randy Brisson's activities, nor this 'Gabe' fellow's accusations. If Bruce were indeed after the truth, one would imagine he would go right to the source. It seems he is more interested in spending the night gossiping like two old ladies after church on a Sunday.

Bruce MacDonald seems quick to accuse Bill and Thomas of being quick to accuse. See the flawed circular logic occurring?

[sebastian]

Well, talking about "Thomas chasing after black bear and started shooting", I'll be damned! Check out the following video and listen to the conversation @ 0:52. Gabe started talking about fired his 12 gauge to scare off something making noise in the bush!



Description by Trailriderresearch on this video:

Gabe recounts his Bigfoot encounter in 1990 which occurred on Long Island, during our recent camping trip there. I film a strange light later that night. Gabe insisted we leave a light all night in the site. When I went to bed a shadow crossed my tent, so I quickly got up, to see nothing. Stayed up all night after that.

0:15 a light which appears to be a "star" top center frame moves into view then withdraws after 45 seconds.

6:37 the owl starts up again he was very vocal all night

7:29 I nottice a very bright light appears shining thru the trees, varying it's intensity greatly

[Gerry]

Do these guys do this strictly for their own entertainment?
Just a couple of points...
How do you see a thrown rock by moonlight well enough to tell if it were thrown over hand..or underhand? And would not Mr. Brisson be a better source of expertise to plumb in that regard?
What were they inferring about this tent city?
Bright llight in the sky...er...tree?
Could just as easily be a small flashlight beam hitting a reflective surface of an object tossed up into the branches. At one telling point you can even see the beam as it is moved off the object and moved back on again. And with night vision the effect would be very startling and bright!
It is so sad that for every sincere individual in this field there are a dozen other misguided individuals..and they are the ones who promote their own brand of half truths with such fervor, that thiers is the only message heard by the masses.

[bigfoothunter]

They could hav been looking at the moon through the tree foliage. Interesting that MacDonald never got off of his behind to get a different view of it ... hopefully unobstructed. (sigh~) My guess is that Bruce MacDonald knew exactly what it was and was going to use its appearance through the star scope to attempt to make something out of nothing.

And what did Gabe say ... he found two tracks in the sand ... one big and one smaller? Did I hear that right?? And did he not attempt to attribute tying cans to a string to the sasquatch???

I better have another listen.

One side note however, Is it me or did not MacDonald seem uninterested that Gabe would fire of a gun into the night. It appears that hearsay said about Steenburg was more interesting to Bruce than having some boob like 'Gabe the story teller' admitting that he fired off a gun needlessly over hearing a noise in the night. I wonder why MacDonald didn't go after Gabe for first mentioning small foot prints found on the beach that he is trying to connect to the Sasquatch by mentioning their great weight. Jacko was said to be 4'7" tall and weighed 127lbs, thus I feel that Gabe was making up his story and chose the deep print version before realizing he had claimed they were child sized tracks. Ooooops!

Bill Miller
Bigfoot Field Research

[duallie]

Too funny!
I agree, the face is very human-looking. Too bad that the photo is fake though.
We are dealing with a race of people, not apes? Really?! Show me proof of this. Where is it? There is none!!
The fact they have a real language. What? Really, that's fact is it?? And just what makes it fact? Dude, BF's existence isn't fact!
Don't spout crap that you are unable to back up with some proof/evidence. All it does is make one look like a fool.
Those can be your opinions, but they are definitely not fact.
So, Bf are monitoring the campsite, looking for the opportunity to steal food from campers. So now they've resorted to scavenging and are becoming dependent on campers. This just gets better doesn't it?
But don't take any guns. I suppose you are one of those that believes that BF can sense a gun. How would they know what a gun is? Wouldn't a carried axe appear similar, or fishing rods? Unless they are shot at often, they wouldn't have a clue to be fearful of a gun. So, you are suggesting that people go out into the wild without a means of protecting themselves. That is stupid. Are you suggesting that it is better that one of us on this site would die rather than a BF? Everyone that is going out into any remote area should be taking some form of self-protection. There are also bears, cougars, and wolves out there. At the minimum, bear-spray and a good knife should be priority items. For sure, a gun if possible. We should be prepared well enough on any excursion, to above all else, return home safely.
You say that your intention is to video BF at night. Well, outside of Patterson, there is no video of BF in the day. Wouldn't it be easier to try to capture a daytime video first. Myself, I don't believe that they would be nocturnal. If they were, there wouldn't be all these daytime sightings. If they were truly nocturnal, sightings would mostly occur in the early morning and early evening hours, with the occasional daytime sighting.
Besides, how could any night video ever be conclusive. A night video would provide almost nothing that could connect it to being BF. Nobody could ever view a night video and conclude that it is definitely a BF. For that reason alone, I don't see the importance of trying to capture any night footage.
Set up trail-cams around your area. If you believe that they are frequenting that area, it really shouldn't be that difficult to find them. I would travel out from the site in larger and larger circles. Eventually you would have to come across a main path that is used to enter and exit the area. Strategically set up trailcams, and they will have to capture something. Place a branch or something so that it extends into the trail in hopes of getting some hair to snag on it. Even place a bottle or jar somewhere along the trail at chest height where it is easily visible. Wrap it in double-sided tape in the hopes of getting a possible print and more hair.
But back to their factual language, so you are able to speak with them? That is so cool!

[duallie]

Oh My!
I just went back and viewed the night videos. I didn't view them earlier because after reading the posts that followed them, I wasn't even going to waste my time. But, after leaving above post, curiosity got me, and I watched them.
Why are these guys on this site? Shouldn't they be on a Paranormal or UFO site? Those videos weren't even good for a laugh. In the first one, at best, those are fireflys. At least that would be my first thought. How he claims them to be BF is absurd. And they're INVISIBLE ones to boot. Isn't that convenient! Look, I've got video proof of BF, but you can't see them, they're invisible. damn, we've all got video of BF. Who knew.
Dogfood in front and behind your truck. That's how you search for BF? Get real! You are obviously scared of the bush. Go hike into remote areas looking for them, don't sit in your truck on a road with a bunch of dogfood. You's were probably snuggled up in your truck videoing the tents as well. Why wouldn't you show yourselves around a campfire or something? It might have added interest.
If he found all these tracks, where's the photos. Why did you's not go to that area and look for more. And camp over where all the tracks are? Or could you not park the truck there?
So, he fired his shotgun towards BF and he kept coming, entering the water toward the island. Yet you tell us not to take a gun. It sounds like we should be out there firing our guns off, because BF comes toward the gunshots.
Glowing lights in the sky? Invisible BF? Hmmm. Does this guy by any chance know Cameranut??
Guess why all the ghost shows and videos are done at night? It's to add mood and tension to the video. And to help hide things and make them appear more believable. If ghosts exist, why would they only be active at night? It's so ridiculous. Much like these videos.
Head on over to BFRO there trailrider. They'll welcome you with open arms.

[thomassteenburg]

Sept 9, 2009 22:36:55 GMT -5 @trailriderresearch said:

Okay

I am going to apologize to both Bill Miller and Thomas Steenburg, right here and right now. Before this train wreck slides any farther downhill.

Everyones passion for the subject is strong. For me to attempt to discredit either mens legacy or dedication in the field is wrong. For that I apologize.

I purposely enlisted Gabe for a weekend at long Island knowing full well the discord between Gabe you two was already in place. The truth is, and Gabe knows this, I was on a mission to collect video to support my point that you guys are wrong about Randy. Thats how far I was willing to go to counter these "hoaxing claims".

I had also promised a long time ago to Gabe a trip to long Island, which was fun and I enjoyed his perspective and company while we were there

I am ending it with an apology to Bill and Thomas. The negative energy is non-productive.

I remain extremely disappointed with their conclusions regarding Randy Brissons images, and the conclusions from Thomas's trip to golden ears. I think you should re-evaluate both.


As for my videos, they are a product of the technology I have embraced, which is sensitive nightvison, ultra low frequency microphones and a lot of computing power to grind thru it. The night time stuff I am picking up is not what I am looking for, but I would be remiss not to report it.

Quite simply, my intention is to video Sasquatch at night. I am not getting the results I was expecting.



I want to suggest that maybe you guys go camping at long Island yourselves for a night or two. But don't take any guns. I am convinced Sasquatch are there, and they are monitoring that campsite looking for opportunities to steal food from campers.

Just bear in mind you are dealing with a race of people not apes. like the Indians say, and as evidenced by Scott Neilsons findings regarding the fact they have a real language. Oh and by the face in Brissons photo that is clearly very human looking.

Apology accepted. but lets face it Bruce, the hoaxing in Golden Ears park which occured July 21 2009 would have for the most part have died a quick death and had been forgotten by most and relegated to the back files if those whom put blind faith ahead of reasonable investigation had let the facts be as it may. This whole mess came to public light because folks whom felt they had been had, were venting on face book. And you can't blame them for venting a bit. I assume yourself with your beliefs probably felt the same way. As far as I am concerned the matter is closed, but I will allways respond with the facts as I see them, when it comes to this on going mystery. Good luck to you with your future research. I will never try to diswade you from what you feel the Sasquatch is. That would be like tryng to diswade a devote christen to Atheist. It can't be done. best of luck to you.

Thomas Steenburg

P.S. next time you head up Lake Harrison, try Stokey Creek on the lakes east bank where the old camp still stands in ruins. lots of History there.

[bigfoothunter]

Sept 9, 2009 22:36:55 GMT -5 @trailriderresearch said:

Okay

I am going to apologize to both Bill Miller and Thomas Steenburg, right here and right now. Before this train wreck slides any farther downhill.

Everyones passion for the subject is strong. For me to attempt to discredit either mens legacy or dedication in the field is wrong. For that I apologize.

I purposely enlisted Gabe for a weekend at long Island knowing full well the discord between Gabe you two was already in place. The truth is, and Gabe knows this, I was on a mission to collect video to support my point that you guys are wrong about Randy. Thats how far I was willing to go to counter these "hoaxing claims

So if I have this straight ... you were not happy with the conclusions we had concerning Brisson's behavior, so you knowingly set up a slanted interview with Gabe as an attempt to gain support for Brisson's character by using propaganda to attempt to discredit ours. I hope that you understand that if you are doing these sorts of things, then it calls into question the veracity of the other videos you have shot and whether or not the things you have written or said on them was also slanted so to sell your beliefs.

Also, the laws of nature need no explanation. I simply noticed that the camera moved between Brisson's photos, thus the distance from his lens to the stump changed. This caused a visual change in size of the objects within the photos with the exception of the alleged Sasquatch head. You, nor Brisson has offered an explanation as to why the laws of physics should not apply to his photographs.

Just bear in mind you are dealing with a race of people not apes. like the Indians say, and as evidenced by Scott Neilsons findings regarding the fact they have a real language. Oh and by the face in Brissons photo that is clearly very human looking.

To that statement I will only say that I looked into the human factor long ago and two independent anthropologist (Krantz and Meldrum) have told me that humans have never had nocturnal eye-sight. In other words ... their eyes will not reflect light like animals that are nocturnal do. The Sasquatch has been reported time and time again to have eye-shine which is an animal trait.


Bill Miller
Bigfoot Field Research