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Post by Gerry on Aug 14, 2008 10:39:36 GMT -5
Sooo whaddya think?
Personally, I see no possible use that Squatch might have for building or inhabiting natural or fabricated shelters.
Just because saquatch is bipedal does not mean that his habits must conform with other bipedal animals on this planet. Such as gorillas who weave primative nest like structures.
But we all have read on forums that this is an indisputable evidence of squatch activity.
It does not matter that no one has ever seen a squatch build such a structure. Lay down in such a structure. But who knows?
Caves? Why would a squatch need a cave as a residence! I am sure that there are some which have made use of such for a 'one nighter'..but I think that squatch is totally nomadic in nature only staying in one area for a few days and then moving on. It has no range, or territorial boundaries. This makes me wonder about their female selection process....hmmmmmm. That is another thread for another time!
I'm thinking..do moose,elk, deer, beavers dwell in caves?
What about Squatch?
Maybe only during the winter months?
But if they are nomadic in nature why live in a cave?
Do you know that a number of bears do not hibernate in the winter depending on where they live. This only happens when their food supply disappears during the winter months. Mild winter climate = active bears! Same for squatch? Footprints in the snow!
What is your opinion?
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Post by vilnoori on Aug 14, 2008 14:55:50 GMT -5
All of the known apes except for gibbons build night shelters that look like nests. So yes, I would expect some kind of night sheltering behaviour in a proposed Sasquatch species. However, if it is a lot more intelligent than chimps and gorillas, it may not make a nest each night, but build a fresh nest only periodically, and sometimes make do with a cozy grassy meadow in summer if there is no dew, as humans would.
We know also that people all over the world either take shelter in caves or build caves (houses, tents etc.) so I would expect that to be a behavioural extension of the ape nesting--shelter building behaviour set. People didn't just suddenly take on these behaviours, they probably existed in some form in previous hominoids, and I would expect it to be there in Sasquatch as well. Homo erectus and other hominoid bones have been found in caves.
The same goes for our aquatic tendencies, wandering/nomadic tendencies, and hunting behaviours.
Chimps share a whole gamut of behaviours with humans such as tribal wars/squabbles, cooperation hunting, tool-making--even going so far as to manufacture different, specialized tools for specific situations, teaching young survival behaviour (accumulation of culture). All great apes and monkeys express a lot with facial muscles, and it is something that is special to apes and monkeys. We communicate a great deal with our expressions in addition to gestures. Monkeys have a large range of barks, chatters, expressions (big eyes, baring teeth, staring etc.) and body language, far more than other animals. A form of dominance hierarchy is common to all monkeys and apes, and is rudimentary to a form of society.
Female selection process--there's been a lot of speculation that their system is somewhat like the orangutans due to the fact that so many of the sightings are of solitary animals, particularly of males, and they don't seem to be seen in large groups or troupes such as gorillas, chimps, and most other monkeys form. This characteristic is one that lends support to the camp that they are a large form of something off the orangutan line, rather than a hominoid from the chimp-gorilla-human lineage. I think that that could just be a consequence of their small numbers and isolation, however, due to the terrain they choose to inhabit. Perhaps their choice of habitat is a consequence of sharing space with humans who love the fertile valleys, are active in day time and congregate together in tribes. They may simply have been directed into a different habitat niche, and the solitary sexual/social aspect was a development of that.
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Post by charliewood on Mar 1, 2014 12:57:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't doubt that a female (or a family group) might make use of a shelter after a fresh birth.... however thats just speculation..on my part.. birth can be taxing on a female of any species... large bipedal hominids not excepted... this may be the purpose of the large round nest structures... sometimes encountered.
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Post by Richard on Mar 1, 2014 22:10:57 GMT -5
My problem with shelters is evidence. To the best of my knowledge there has been no unrecognized hair sample obtained from these "nests". However in other primates, this isn't the case, as they are ripe with hair.
I agree with Gerry on this one. After all first we need to prove they exist, and then (and only then) we can start to uncover their habits - to do so in the opposite manner seems a rather futile waste of time.w
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Post by bajablondie on Sept 29, 2014 12:29:24 GMT -5
Sooo whaddya think? Personally, I see no possible use that Squatch might have for building or inhabiting natural or fabricated shelters. Just because saquatch is bipedal does not mean that his habits must conform with other bipedal animals on this planet. Such as gorillas who weave primative nest like structures. But we all have read on forums that this is an indisputable evidence of squatch activity. It does not matter that no one has ever seen a squatch build such a structure. Lay down in such a structure. But who knows? Caves? Why would a squatch need a cave as a residence! I am sure that there are some which have made use of such for a 'one nighter'..but I think that squatch is totally nomadic in nature only staying in one area for a few days and then moving on. It has no range, or territorial boundaries. This makes me wonder about their female selection process....hmmmmmm. That is another thread for another time! I'm thinking..do moose,elk, deer, beavers dwell in caves? What about Squatch? Maybe only during the winter months? But if they are nomadic in nature why live in a cave? Do you know that a number of bears do not hibernate in the winter depending on where they live. This only happens when their food supply disappears during the winter months. Mild winter climate = active bears! Same for squatch? Footprints in the snow! What is your opinion? |
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Post by bajablondie on Sept 29, 2014 12:35:05 GMT -5
Last month we (three couples) rented houseboat on Harrison Lake, second night came ashore at
Long Island.. 2:35 in the morning woken to ungodly scream in the woods about 1000 feet away
followed by hooping and chuckling sounds (never heard anything like it), then off in the distance
more sounds of hooping and chuckling coming closer, what ever it was must have met as a group
sounding all together for ten minutes then dead silence...
Next morning three of us went into the woods, up an old logging road to a clearing when large
boulders came rolling down the embankment about 100 ft. high... virtually straight up and very
difficult to climb... we stopped with cameras ready but only saw the boulders rolling down the
cliff followed by beating on hollow logs.. we backed down the trail and it stopped, started forward
and it started again like "someone" was telling us to get lost..... all very strange indeed...
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Post by sawone on Sept 29, 2014 18:12:43 GMT -5
bajablondie, please PM thomassteenburg, bigfoothunter, or myself to discuss your experience at Long Island in more detail. We are VERY interested in following this up. We will keep all personal info completely confidential, if you choose to do so.
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Post by billr on Sept 30, 2014 2:44:59 GMT -5
Thomas is best reached at sasquatch@telus.net
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Post by Gerry on Oct 21, 2014 22:04:53 GMT -5
At the time that 'bajablondie made that post myself and bigfoothunter had already discussed their experience and got back to the writer.
Conclusion was... that noise is just noise.. with out visual accompaniment.
It was a curious experience, but nothing more than that! Rocks also roll for many reasons.
The majority of people would never associate sasquatch with the developments experienced.
But I understand their curiosity and interest.
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Post by billr on Oct 25, 2014 1:45:38 GMT -5
Thanks Gerry
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Post by island on Jan 29, 2016 20:24:13 GMT -5
imo a Sasquatch is highly likely to nest like *ALL* other mammal do , even the deer pat down the grass in a sheltered area out of the wind.
Look at this way if the Sasquatch did not nest it would be the only mammal that did not seek shelter for their daily sleep needs.
or Maybe Sasquatch sleep walk ... not ! (maybe haha)
Remember guys don't forget your camera if you go looking ! (get a SuperZoom camera)
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Post by billr on Feb 1, 2016 2:02:55 GMT -5
There is a huge difference between flattening down an area to sleep on and constructing stick shelters
Many of these supposed stick structures are so open to the elements, that they really would serve no purpose at all
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Post by island on Feb 1, 2016 17:21:51 GMT -5
Talk about a Obvious looking shelter
I doubt a Sasquatch would make a great big branch covered human like shelter as that design is not even slightly stealthy.
To avoid detection a traveling Sasquatch would sleep somewhere hard to reach, somewhere safe , up a old tree or on a steep hard to access hillside.
I found a cougar den in the past , it was *in* a pile of large rocks right on the side of a logging road. But was very stealthy I only found it because of a array of bones that was just outside of the entrance.
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Post by island on Feb 1, 2016 17:40:37 GMT -5
Last month we (three couples) rented houseboat on Harrison Lake, second night came ashore at Long Island.. 2:35 in the morning woken to ungodly scream in the woods about 1000 feet away followed by hooping and chuckling sounds (never heard anything like it), then off in the distance more sounds of hooping and chuckling coming closer, what ever it was must have met as a group sounding all together for ten minutes then dead silence... Next morning three of us went into the woods, up an old logging road to a clearing when large boulders came rolling down the embankment about 100 ft. high... virtually straight up and very difficult to climb... we stopped with cameras ready but only saw the boulders rolling down the cliff followed by beating on hollow logs.. we backed down the trail and it stopped, started forward and it started again like "someone" was telling us to get lost..... all very strange indeed... Wow that's a pretty exciting night ! a pack of Sasquatches must be a sound to behold. To bad you did not record it and hopefully you do not work for the boat rental company..  |
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Post by Richard on Feb 1, 2016 22:41:34 GMT -5
Wow that's a pretty exciting night ! a pack of Sasquatches must be a sound to behold. To bad you did not record it and hopefully you do not work for the boat rental company.. Yup no one in the entire party had a smartphone on them that could record video and audio ... no one really carries them at all these days  |
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