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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2005 23:02:08 GMT -5
OMG, that is a tradgedy! Also, there has been some diseases spreading in the woods lately. 1. West Nile Virus 2. Lime Disease 3. Rocky Mountain Fever
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2005 17:26:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2005 20:38:25 GMT -5
Man! SOOO many attacks!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2005 8:39:45 GMT -5
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Post by Gerry on Jun 6, 2007 10:50:49 GMT -5
Bear spray Whistle heavy caliber rifle
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2008 23:26:17 GMT -5
From a very young age I was tought that one of the most important tools you can have in the bush (apart from a working brain) is a good rifle. And I believe that. But, something else I believe is respect for the wilds, and one of the things that enrages me the most is rediculous disregard for the wellbeing of animals. I have seen and heard of lots of people "shooting up the place" out there, to me this is dangerous and VERY immature. A rifle can do you lots of good, but you have to be respectful, and VERY responsible when you use any weapon. I witnessed four americans near Kettle Valley outside of Princeton shooting a moose over and over again, then simply cut of the antlers and leave the carcass there, I was disgusted to the point that I would of loved to take a potshot at them, but well, then I would be no more responsible than they. A big problewm with the woods is not a situation where you need to defend yourself, but most often someone inexperienced (the kind of people that take a lot of cotton clothes camping in a temperate rain forest come to mind) getting themselves in a bad situation. One of the reasons I love the "great outdoors" is becuase when I'm out there, I can be one with the elements, and there is little civilization near, so I can escape it all, so-to-speak. That same reason is why I caution people who go camping the way I have in the past, becuase when you walk into the bush, you are leaving behind much of what we sometimes rely on, the safety of 9-1-1, the warmth and shelter of a house, readily available water and food, etc. Just be careful out there folks, for you, and the environment.
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Post by vilnoori on Jul 31, 2008 18:10:31 GMT -5
I just picked up a nifty little hand held siren and microphone. It was in the bike dept. at Zellers. I figure good for call blasting OR scaring away things. I do carry a whistle but my own good voice is pretty darn loud (I'm operatically trained, ha ha). I can make people cringe and cover their ears if I really belt it out. I think I'll get me some bear spray too, it is pretty potent. And I always carry a knife as a survival tool that can't be equaled. I also like to carry a hefty stick when walking in the bush. Grabbing a big rock and using it as a weapon in an emergency is something to keep in mind. Only hunters in season can carry firearms in BC's forests.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2008 1:48:16 GMT -5
Personally, if I feel the need to, I bring a rifle with me, in the woods I usually avoid other people like the plague, almost like our big hairy friend, so I'm not too concerned about running into fishery and game officials, or other enforcers. I don't believe in poaching, but I do believe in the right to protect myself and anyone I'm with. I miss having an active military I.D. It isn't so much a get away with anything pass, but if you want to be a jerk it can act as a get out of my face pass. Anyways, I recommend a bear scare launcher, bear spray, everyone should always have something to start a fire with (flint, lighter, etc), something to cut with (knife), and something to see with (flashlight), a machete is a good tool, and yes a rifle is advisable, but not always a nesessity, but a walking stick is good for tough terrain.
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Post by vilnoori on Aug 1, 2008 13:11:15 GMT -5
Yes, and I carry a candle stub to hold the flame. Around here most everything is wet and windy. I don't think you know this but I was survival trained by my African friends as a kid. I can flint knap if I have to, build a hut from trees, eat insects and lots of things people don't usually consider as food, fish, trap etc. I also have a built in compass in my head, I guess I got that from my mom. Lots of times I even can tell you what time it is without looking, and I can go by the sun/shadows. I use that ultimate survival tool, my brain. I also am a trained armed guard, so I can fight if I have to. I have an FAC/PAC for unrestricted weapons and the training to go with it but I follow the law. Right now I'm repacking a back pack for hiking, so any good suggestions are welcome. I like the siren!
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Post by vilnoori on Aug 1, 2008 13:35:04 GMT -5
So how about a list for day trips:
-layered clothing, long pants, good shoes/boots and socks, water and wind proof jacket -emergency foil blanket (I also carry a small hammock) -waterproof fire lighter -candle stub -flashlight and extra batteries for it -mirror for flashing signals (though building a few good fires is a no brainer) -bear spray -knife and wire saw -personal alarm or siren, whistle -small first aid kit with bandages, mole skin, alcohol swabs, betadine swab and a needle, tweezer for splinters -small quantity of tylenol 3/s in case you have to walk while in acute pain -water filtration/purification (I use an eyedropper of chlorine drops and a sip filter as back-up) -something to drink out of that you can boil water in (large enamel tin mug or small pot) -instant beverage/soup/porridge mix in case you get stuck somewhere and have to wait -emergency fishing/snare kit (hooks, a couple of weights, nylon cord and red wool), small folding sling shot -heavy duty tape -1/4 roll of toilet paper -small container of wet wipes -small container of dry handwash (also a good disinfectant) -small bar of soap or container of liquid soap
-wrapped power bars or a lunch that doesn't contain fish, mint or peanut butter (bear attractants) -enough water for the trip
-walking stick
-Camera!
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Post by Gerry on Oct 16, 2008 11:04:02 GMT -5
B.C. man comes out swinging in bear attack Warning: this story contains graphic details Last Updated: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 | 9:43 PM ET Comments220Recommend191 CBC News Jim West needed 60 stitches on his head and body to close wounds from the bear attack. Jim West needed 60 stitches on his head and body to close wounds from the bear attack. (CBC)
A Cariboo, B.C., man who was attacked by a bear says he used a stick to put up the fight of his life after he realized he was likely in a fight to the death.
Jim West, 45, was out walking last Saturday morning with his two dogs near 70 Mile House, about halfway between Kamloops and Williams Lake, when he came face to face with an angry mother bear.
"I turned [when] I heard a grunt. All I saw was eyes full of hatred … I had no option … So I stuck my foot up and tried to kick her in the face," he said.
The bear then attacked him, knocking him to the ground, and West soon found himself on the losing side of an ill-matched fight.
"I rolled onto my stomach and clasped my hands at the back of my neck. She tore into my skull at the back of my head, moved over and bit me on the left side of my body, on my ribs and left arm," said West.
Knowing he would likely soon be dead unless he fought back, the injured West managed to get to his feet and picked up a stick about as thick as his arm. Bear's skull crushed
"I said, in effect, bring it on sweetie. I took one step forward — smash!" said West. Jim West demonstrates how he swung at the oncoming bear with a stick he grabbed off the ground. Jim West demonstrates how he swung at the oncoming bear with a stick he grabbed off the ground. (CBC)
"I swung the stick and broke it over her head. She kind of stood there and shook it off, like she was stunned," he said.
"I realized if I didn't continue the attack she would knock me to the ground again and I would not get up.
"I swung my piece of wood like a sledgehammer driving spikes and I kept swinging till she was lying flat on the ground and there was blood coming out of her nose," said West.
The five-foot-nine man eventually crushed the bear's skull with the stick, killing it.
West then walked a kilometre and a half to a local lodge, where he was transported to hospital. The gashes in his body took 60 stitches to sew up.
The incident surprised even conservation officers, who say West is lucky to be alive.
Unfortunately, two young bears had to be euthanized because they would not survive the winter without their mother, West said. And while he regrets the deaths of the three bears, he believes he did what he needed to do to survive.
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Post by Gerry on Oct 16, 2008 11:07:55 GMT -5
Bear attack victim on closed trail: officials
Updated Tue. Jun. 7 2005 1:04 PM ET
CTV.ca News Staff
Officials say the woman who was killed by a grizzly bear in Alberta Sunday was running on a trail the public had been told to avoid.
Isabelle Dube was running with two friends on the popular Bench Trail in Canmore, 90 kilometres west of Calgary, when they encountered the bear.
According to RCMP Cpl. Brad Freer, the trail had been subject to a voluntary closure dating as far back as April.
The restrictions were intended to protect a corridor used by roaming wildlife, but have been flouted by outdoor enthusiasts who have created hundreds of kilometres of informal trails throughout the area.
And that's where Dube and her companions were when they came across the attacking bear. While two of the three women ran to the nearby SilverTip Golf Course for help, Dube sought refuge in a tree.
But the 90-kilogram, four-year-old grizzly managed to drag Dube from the tree. The 35-year-old wife and mother of one young daughter was mauled to death.
Fish and wildlife officers later shot and killed the bear.
The bear, known to officials as No. 99, recently drew attention when it approached a Canmore woman. Following that encounter, the bear was relocated to the Carrot Creek area ear Banff National Park.
Since then, Alberta Sustainable Resource Development spokesperson David Ealey said his department had been tracking the bear with a GPS collar.
"This bear was not aggressive. It was basically behaving as a bear of its typical age and sex would," Ealey said.
"And we decided it was important to shift it into a place still within its home range," where a bear is more likely to find food.
But the grizzly found its way back to the SilverTip area, and was spotted on the links an hour before the deadly attack.
Alberta Sustainable Resource Development spokesperson Donna Babchishin told CTV.ca that bear-response experts consider several options after investigating a bear's behaviour.
"The range of options might involve leaving a bear in place, relocating it inside its range, relocating it outside its range, or putting the bear down," she said.
Ealey said they couldn't re-locate the bear to an area further away. If a bear is moved to unfamiliar territory too far from its home range, "it's likely to die."
A wildlife scientist said continuing to develop mountain communities like Canmore -- which is just outside the gates of Banff National Prk and is now home to some 13,000 people on once-prime wildlife habitat -- will inevitably lead to more confrontations between animals and humans.
"And so you get a situation like this where people get themselves into really difficult situations they don't understand, haven't thought about, and don't know how to deal with. And you see these kind of tragic consequences," Dr. Brian Horejsi told CTV's Calgary affiliate, CFCN News.
Ealey stressed that bears don't typically attack humans unless they're surprised.
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