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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2007 11:59:59 GMT -5
yeah vilnoori I found that bit of info bout the tigers stunning their tamers very interesting indeed! I wonder if my kitty cats sometimes try it on me? LOL
I find it funny that the fight or flight response and how it affects our perceptions have even made it into movies and video games.. like The Matrix movies and Max Payne video games! (Art imitating life!)
I have also come across many accounts of real life service men (armed forces and such) in gun fights also experiencing this time distortion where everything slows down and like in the Matrix movies they report they were actually able see the trajectory line of incoming bullets and avoid them. Morihei Ueshiba, Master and founder of Aikido was supposedly also able to dodge bullets by seeing them at the moment they were fired at him.
Well vilnoori! I'll never mess with you!! LOL
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Post by vilnoori on Aug 27, 2007 1:49:02 GMT -5
huh. Dodging bullets?! It sounds supernatural, doesn't it. Reminds me of my kids' movies about superheroes.
I honestly wondered if my angel had just taken over my body for those few seconds. It was so hard to own that experience. But I've heard of ordinary people doing amazing things under great stress, like lifting cars off their crushed children, and things like that. I guess I believe it now.
BTW the trainer for that course at the JI was a master of many different types of martial arts and he trained police officers. But I found him to be a very violent and not peaceful person. No inner peace. I really wasn't that surprised to hear he died of cancer about three years later, and he was only in his early 40's. That much aggression inside you has to go somewhere.
Another strange thing that happened during that course was when he picked me when he was going to demonstrate how to block someone from disarming you. He had a rubber dummy gun in his holster, and he told me to try to take it. He thought he'd stop me from doing it. But I succeeded in taking away his gun!
See, I'm left-handed, and very, very fast in my reflexes (it must come from chasing kids all day, lol). He was ready to block my right hand, and then my left shot out fast and got his gun. And then he took me down and hurt me to the point of gasping while on the mat, he sure didn't like that very much and let me know quietly on the mat that he was prepared to hurt me a lot more if I did anything like that again. But if it had been a real gun, he would have been dead already.
So maybe that was one reason he wanted to fail me, too. I think I ended up teaching him quite a bit about the danger of assuming things about your opponent based upon their appearance.
Also I learned from that experience that I am capable of taking away a handgun from someone if I ever need to do it.
But anyway, I do digress! lol Off topic...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2010 14:41:12 GMT -5
Interesting thread . Since discovering BF 4 years ago, I prefer the term " hit by infrasound" as Cindy pointed out in her BFRO report. foreststealth asks: " Has any Canadians sasquatches espcially Western Canadian Sasquatches ever done this to anyone here?? "All of us, in our small group of four, as well as some of our friends taken along our BF walks have experienced such. Some more than others. Bear Hunter, I have also heard some who experienced such. Didn't it take Sali 20 YEARS before she remembered her first Sighting (which she eventually wrote about in Valley of the Skookum).
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Post by Sean V. on Sept 10, 2010 4:20:12 GMT -5
Sasquatch Zapping people? They are doing this again?! *Sigh*. Its because of their long hair, it really does build up alot of static electricity. They cannot seem to help themselves...... ;D
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Post by duallie on Feb 25, 2011 23:01:00 GMT -5
why do people try to suggest that bf have super-powers? all this does is give more fuel to skeptics. at best, bf is a left over ape from the evolution cycle. bf does not have mystical powers or alien helpers.
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Post by cherni on Mar 3, 2011 0:45:53 GMT -5
Duallie, in my job, I get to deal with a lot of first nations people. Most I've talked to consider the Sasquatch to be a shape shifter of sorts. That is what their heritage has taught them. Now I'm not saying I believe in that, but what I'm saying is for a mythical and mystical creature that we all have interest in, we also have to be open to the possibilities.
Because until one is PROVEN and FOUND, we are all just chasing theory, and lore.
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Post by duallie on Mar 9, 2011 17:32:44 GMT -5
i agree 100% with you, cherni. until we have a body, live or dead, we are all just speculating.
but, when people use "cloaking" and "telekinesis" as excuses for why bf aren't seen, i find that to be stretching things a bit. should the explanation that maybe they just aren't in the location not be the first logical reasoning?
i could use that same thinking when i'm hunting. darn, i got skunked again. dang moose, they keep out-smarting me. how can i walk all day and not be seeing one? aha. they must be staying close to the bf and 'sharing' their cloaking abilities. now that would be pretty ridiculous thinking. but, it's the same as some people's thinking.
if i'm not seeing something, it's for two reasons. 1) it's successfully evaded me by keeping out of sight. 2) it isn't in the area at the same time as i am. it did not cloak or block my thoughts.
i think it is more important to first try and prove the existance of bf, before giving it all these 'special' attributes.
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Post by duallie on Mar 9, 2011 17:46:48 GMT -5
you mention that you work with the indians. and that they believe that bf are shape-shifters. that their heritage has taught them that.
well, it's just that, it's their "beliefs". they have no proof of that. they are believing it because their heritage has told it to them. in other words, it's a story that has been passed on.
i've heard many fishing tales as well. it doesn't make them true. in fact, it's proven that as stories are repeated from one person to the next, that they change dramatically in each re-telling. that fish just seems to get bigger and bigger each time.
i read each story with skepticism first. test the story. are their inconsistencies, etc, etc? bs falls to the side pretty quick. some hold up and are very intriguing. but they are still not proof by any means.
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Post by vilnoori on Mar 11, 2011 16:41:48 GMT -5
I guess if discussing this with people that believe they are shape shifters you can mention that shape shifters take on animal forms, therefore sasquatches could be an animal whose form is also taken. My understanding of this is that the shapeshifter needs a DNA sample to use as a template, such as a piece of fur or hair, then the spirit helper(s) use that to change their form. Pass that idea to them, who knows, they might just start opening up.
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Post by duallie on Mar 12, 2011 1:39:35 GMT -5
please tell me that you's are joking with the shape-shifting bs.
what evidence do you have of anything shape-shifting? stop watching those sci-fi movies. if you have any evidence, please post. and it should be actual evidence, not speculation and stories.
the shape-shifter needs a dna sample to use as a template? what?? where are you coming up with this stuff?
if bf does in fact exist, it's an evolved ape. it is not magical, mystical, or super-powered. if it is so special, why does it walk around in the woods? why wouldn't it sleep in a king-sized bed in a mansion and drive a bmw?
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Post by cherni on Mar 17, 2011 1:32:25 GMT -5
Duallie, I'm not trying to debate or argue, but it is fact, and maybe Gerry or Thomas can confirm what I am saying here, but most First Nations will not discuss the subject of Sasquatch out of a couple reasons.
1) They feel ridiculed by the "white" man because our heritage, for the most part can not conform to their way of being in touch with nature as most First Nations (especially the elders) are. So many First Nations members won't talk about Sasquatch to us white folks can not understand fully their connection to nature.
2) Yes those stories may sound like far fetched stories about shape shifting, and yes those stories have been passed down from generation to generation, but there is a reason why many First Nations people have no problem in seeing Sasquatch yet us "white" people have troubles finding an existance.
I have one customer, who is white, but hangs out with the Chehalis Band and has been adopted by the tribe. He told me that when he asked about seeing Sasquatch, the elders told him that he would not see it until he gained more knowledge and became closer to the tribe. They have yet to take him out. But are planning to do so and I plan to talk to him more about it.
Like you, I am skeptical to the shape shifting. However is it out of the realm of possibility? I have no idea. I'd like to think so, however the lore of the First Nations that has been passed down generation to generation is something that can not be ignored.
It's like being on a ghost hunt. Unless you've seen a ghost or had weird stuff happen to you personally, there's little chance you're going to believe it. For those of us who have, or who've seen weird lights in the sky that sure as hell aren't an airplane, you feel alone like no one will believe you. It's because we're in a "believe it when we see it" society.
So until it's proven, we are all looking for answers scientifically. But maybe that's not the answer. What the answer is, I have no idea. I just want to see a foot print or like you've photographed, those broken trees.
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