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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2007 12:23:42 GMT -5
are you serious ? or are you just trying to wake up this forum with a bunch of crazy b.s. how would a sasquatch zap you ? with it's alien probe ? drag it's feet on the carpet to make some static electricity ? you need to go and get your medication upped .
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Post by vilnoori on Aug 14, 2007 0:44:03 GMT -5
They believe the bigfoot are using sounds which are below the human threshold of hearing, like elephants do. It is theoretically possible for an animal with such a big barrel chest to produce such sounds. It would somewhat explain why dogs and other animals can be so thoroughly frightened by close encounters with sasquatches. We humans might not pick up the phenomenon as a sound, but rather as a sensation. Ergo the euphemism, "zapped."
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Post by sebastian on Aug 14, 2007 21:30:27 GMT -5
"Zapped"!? Sounds like Star Trek.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2007 23:17:38 GMT -5
Some Sasquatch have electrical engineering degrees and have been able to manufacture taser guns using twigs and flint rock. It's quite remarkable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2007 12:37:25 GMT -5
Some Sasquatch have electrical engineering degrees and have been able to manufacture taser guns using twigs and flint rock. It's quite remarkable. LOL Well that explains the part in Star Wars when they're in Cloud City and the Storm Troopers torture Hans Solo by binding him to that thing that pushes his chest against the sparking contacts of the torture machine. Hans Solo was like “Hot! Hot!” and then he was all messed up and the Storm Troopers dragged him back to that crazy circular jail cell where we see Chewbacca trying to fix C3PO and Chewbacca saw how messed up Hans Solo was and he was all like “Arghghghg!” always wondered where them Wookies got their engineering skills!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2007 12:50:50 GMT -5
are you serious ? or are you just trying to wake up this forum with a bunch of crazy b.s. how would a sasquatch zap you ? with it's alien probe ? drag it's feet on the carpet to make some static electricity ? you need to go and get your medication upped . "Touché"! To deal with people like you no doubt I'd need to be on meds. Did I say I was zapped by anything? I was simply asking a question in relations to the article (link I even included in post) that I had just read on bfro as I found it funny that the bfro are now talking about getting zapped (THEIR WORDS NOT MINE) so I was wondering if anyone who frequents the board here if they have ever gotten close enough to one to experience this or similar? But with the above sarcasm left by you jayfix in response to it I dont think anyone would feel comfortable enough to admit it now!! Have a nice day! Maxim.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2007 12:55:26 GMT -5
They believe the bigfoot are using sounds which are below the human threshold of hearing, like elephants do. It is theoretically possible for an animal with such a big barrel chest to produce such sounds. It would somewhat explain why dogs and other animals can be so thoroughly frightened by close encounters with sasquatches. We humans might not pick up the phenomenon as a sound, but rather as a sensation. Ergo the euphemism, "zapped." Vilnoori, Thanks I know what they believe and they claim to experience but is it only American sasquatches that do this? Has any Canadians sasquatches espcially Western Canadian Sasquatches ever done this to anyone here??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2007 16:01:16 GMT -5
"Zapped"!? Sounds like Star Trek. that's what I found funny especially since they used to be "The only scientific research organization exploring the bigfoot / sasquatch mystery" and now are known as "The scientific research organization exploring the bigfoot / sasquatch mystery." Zapped.. yeah that's a real scientific term! Maybe next they'll change it to "A travel agency offering you the opportunity to get zapped by bigfoot / sasquatch." LOL
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2007 0:09:24 GMT -5
I am open-minded to the concept of zapping, after all, what do we know for sure about sasquatch? Probably a more plausable explaination though is the human minds reaction to a stressful situation. When I had my glimpse, I did not realize what I had seen until I drove by the tracks about 15 minutes later. I then made some totally irrational decisions and did not remember what had happened until about 15 hours later. Was I zapped or just stressed?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2007 10:13:25 GMT -5
Hi Bear Hunter, 15 hours of missing time after a sighting!? I'm sorry you experienced that!! That would be very unsettling not knowing what I had done for the past 15 hours!! Was this the first time you sighted one? Did you see it and like you say fiften minutes later than saw the tracks and the tracks confirmed to your mind that you had really seen it and that brought on the stress?? "Cause the sounds we can't hear can have a powerful affect on your nervous system. One example is the "infrasound" in the roar of a tiger. A tiger's intimidating roar has the power to paralyze animals. Even experienced human trainers are stunned. "We suspect that this is caused by the low frequencies and loudness of the sound," says Elizabeth von Muggenthaler, a bioacoustician from the Fauna Communications Research Institute in North Carolina. "Humans can hear frequencies from 20 hertz to 20,000 hertz, but whales, elephants, rhinos, and tigers can produce sounds below 20 hertz." www.fi.edu/brain/stress.htm See this says PARALYZE & STUNNED! So I guess being hit with a stun gun is the same as being zapped by a sasaquatch!? I dont know? guess I'll have to try both and see for myself. See what I was thinking this zapped feeling that BFRO expedition members are talking about was their flight or fight response we all share when encountering uncertain situations. I know I have experienced the fight or flight before! The adrenal glands release adrenaline (also known as epinephrine) and other hormones that increase breathing, heart rate, and blood pressure. This moves more oxygen-rich blood faster to the brain and to the muscles needed for fighting or fleeing. And than one has plenty of energy to do either, because adrenaline causes a rapid release of glucose and fatty acids into your bloodstream. Also, your senses become keener, your memory sharper, and you are less sensitive to pain. www.fi.edu/brain/stress.htmThought this could be a possibility of the zapped feeling bfro are expressing? Don't think it would explain 15 hours of missing time though? Bear Hunter do you think your "missing time" is post traumatic stress? Cortisol also interferes with the function of neurotransmitters, the chemicals that brain cells use to communicate with each other. Excessive cortisol can make it difficult to think or retrieve long-term memories. That's why people get befuddled and confused in a severe crisis. Their mind goes blank because "the lines are down." They can't remember where the fire exit is, for example. www.fi.edu/brain/stress.htmBut for you Bear Hunter it seems more plausible the realization that you really had seen it and it was confirmed by the tracks caused the stress hormones to divert blood glucose to exercising muscles, therefore the amount of glucose – hence energy – that reaches the brain's hippocampus is diminished. This creates an energy crisis in the hippocampus which compromises its ability to create new memories and may be why some people can't remember a very traumatic event . But you remember the event just not what happened 15 hours after? I dont know? I'm leaning more towards stressed! Bear Hunter, have you remembered anything of those 15 missing hours?? Anything at all??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2007 10:22:31 GMT -5
I then made some totally irrational decisions and did not remember what had happened until about 15 hours later. "totally irrational decisions"?? like?? follow the tracks??? decide after many years of sobriety to take up the bottle again?? what do you mean "totally irrational decisions" if it isnt too personal? thanks, Maxim.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2007 1:22:53 GMT -5
It's not that the 15 hours are missing, I went home and had a good nights sleep without remembering what had happened the evening before. I don't remember much of the drive home though. It took several months before the chronology of what had happened became clear. - about an hour before dusk, drove into a clearcut with good views, got out of the truck and scoped the hillsides for about 5 minutes. - got back into the truck and drove about 50 yards and noticed 2 "stumps" on or near the road below. Stopped and scoped the stumps (from within the cab), they were the right size but were motionless with no noticable head or arms. I think now I may have been viewing them from their 4 or 5 o-clock position and slightly above them. I am returning this fall when the gate is unlocked (hopefully) and the leaves off to see if the stumps are still there. Decided they were stumps. - drove another 50 yards and thought I saw a possible bear (dusty black rump) disappear over a ridge nere where the stumps were, by the time I got my binocs up, there was nothing. Wrote it off as another false alarm. Did not check if the stumps were still there. - came to a fork in the road. My son wanted to walk down the road with the stumps (you could see the landing at the end) and I had no misgivings of letting him. I drove up the other road (about 200 yards to a landing). I looked around for tracks while a squirrel scolded down where my son was. I did feel a little spooked. After my son radioed twice to be picked up I drove down to the landing he was at. - on the way to the landing I drove by some tracks (about human sized) paralleling the road on a gravel bank. They made a very agile 90 degree turn to get back onto the road and I remember whimsically speculating to myself that mother had scolded youngster not to leave tracks. I decided I would see if I could reproduce the maneuver on my way back. - I picked up my son, turned around and stopped at the tracks. He complained (because I had stopped to investigate quite a few tracks already) and said they were boot tracks. I stopped anyway and looked at the tracks where they stepped back onto the road. I realized then that sasquatch exist and had been here very recently. I remember looking around to make sure they weren't right above us. I looked at the print he claimed was a boot print but it was also a sasquatch print with the heel having pushed up a centre mound. - at this point, instead of taking pictures, I proceded with my plan to see if I could duplicate the manuver (I wasn't focusing). I quit before examining my test footprints and then succumbed to my sons nagging to leave (it seemed like a good idea). I quess this was a flight response. I don't know what I was thinking of on the way home but remember what had happened about noon the next day. - I called Thomas Steenburg (I had met him up there that day to show him some other very inconclusive tracks I had found weeks earlier) but was probably incoherent because my memory was still shaky.
From your link to the stress info it looks like cortisol should only kill your memory for a few hours so it is only part of the answer. At least I got a good sleep that first night, for serveral weeks after that, I did not sleep well at all.
I have been up there since and verified that the place where I glimpsed a "bear" rump disappearing was where 2 animals had climbed up a bank from the road. I had not remembered the stumps at that point so will try to see if they are still there on my next time up (if the gate is unlocked).
I hope that if I ever have another encounter that I won't have the same reaction.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2007 8:49:58 GMT -5
From your link to the stress info it looks like cortisol should only kill your memory for a few hours so it is only part of the answer. At least I got a good sleep that first night, for serveral weeks after that, I did not sleep well at all. I have been up there since and verified that the place where I glimpsed a "bear" rump disappearing was where 2 animals had climbed up a bank from the road. I had not remembered the stumps at that point so will try to see if they are still there on my next time up (if the gate is unlocked). I hope that if I ever have another encounter that I won't have the same reaction. Bear Hunter thanks for clarifying your experience. I'm glad you werent alone! I was under the impression you were. Glad you werent. I take it your son was alright and remembered everything as they were. Yeah nothing really explains your situation as per a typical chemical brain reaction? That's why I was inquiring into more details of your experience. It could be just some weird chemical cortisol reaction happened and affected you different for some reason or maybe they were still in the area and both of your fight or flight response were kicking in way above normal? Your sons reaction of wanting you to get out and telling you it's a boot print could of been his way of dealing with what he was feeling unconsciously, like you said above. I could go on and on speculating while avoiding the word "zapped"! Best of luck and safety on the follow up trips and thanks for sharing Bear Hunter, I appreciate it! Maxim.
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Post by vilnoori on Aug 19, 2007 15:56:38 GMT -5
Hey that's really interesting, foreststealth, about the tigers and infrasound affecting brain function. I know that post traumatic stress disorder involves memory loss, which is usually a form of dissociation--the personality or awareness shifts to a different state for a time, to be resumed later when it is safe for the experience to be processed. The human mind is a very complex thing.
I had a blanking out experience only once in my life, and it was definitely associated with fight and flight--it was in my armed guard course, a test of self defense skills. The test was that we had to put our hands above our head and be attacked, and get the attacker (who was in a protective suit) down within 30 seconds or fail. We had to do it twice.
Now I am a very nice, sweet, christian, rather dumpy middle-aged lady, and my attacker was a young male martial arts expert but something rather amazing happened. (I'm 100% sure the teacher had instructed him to fail me to get rid of me, as I was the only woman and he disliked women)
But when the young man attacked me, it was like time slowed down, and somehow in the grappling I managed to get my left little finger in the part that connected the upper arm and lower arm portion of his protective suit.
And last thing I can remember is swinging the guy around and around by my little finger (us women have lower centers of gravity), and then I woke up because everyone was shouting at me to stop the fight, stop the fight!
I was kneeling on his chest, and my fist was raised to kill him by punching his throat. It was rather scary to me to know that I WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM if I hadn't snapped out of it and come to. The poor guy had naked fear in his eyes, he knew I would have done it too.
The second time round he let me win rather easily and it goes without saying that I passed the course. So yes, something very unusual happens to awareness when the fight or flight reaction kicks in.
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