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Post by Gerry on Sept 29, 2008 10:14:45 GMT -5
I don't know about lake monsters and such. But Bill Miller did see a BC salamander as he was coming down a forestry road on Mount Archibald. It was about 18 - 24 "
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Post by vilnoori on Sept 29, 2008 13:27:12 GMT -5
Wow. I would so much like to see one.
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Post by beegee on Sept 29, 2008 17:35:16 GMT -5
(Charles Flood of New Westminster mentions in a sworn statutory declaration of seeing similar black lizards in Cougar Lake, near Hope, BC, in the Holy Cross Mountains.) Does anyone know of this lake,  it would make one interesting side trip to see if they're still living in the lake, now it may be just a local name, but if anyone can help with this ----- it would be a great start, and yes that area may also hold our "big friend" --- making it a worthwhile venture indeed.!!!! |
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Post by Gerry on Sept 29, 2008 21:26:00 GMT -5
I'm still trying to figure out where .Cougar Lake is,,let alone the Holy Cross Mountains!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 21:47:20 GMT -5
I don't know about lake monsters and such. But Bill Miller did see a BC salamander as he was coming down a forestry road on Mount Archibald. It was about 18 - 24 " According to some so-called reptile experts that I have spoken with concerning the black salamander-type creatures that have been seen in the Fraser Valley and surrouding area, there is no such thing as a 24-inch (two-foot) salamander living in British Columbia. They say that salamanders simply don't grow to be more than 6 to 8 inches. Edit: Oh, by the way, loggers in the upper Pitt River valley have reportedly also seen the giant black salamanders crossing the roads. They were told by their boss to keep their mouths shut about these creatures as it could impact their jobs if the creatures were thought to be an endangered species. I found Cougar Lake and Holy Cross Mountain on a very old (1960s) BC Recreational Atlas. I believe they are both slightly south of Hope in a valley that is over top of the first mountain range...I don't have the atlas up here with me in the bush. Ken the Bushman  |
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Post by beegee on Sept 29, 2008 23:40:45 GMT -5
Many Thanks Ken............ We now have a place to start, and will start digging the info for a possible trip if viable, and with enough people interested, ------- the "Crypto guys" should jump all over this one. Lets have some more feedback, and input.
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Post by Gerry on Sept 30, 2008 10:27:24 GMT -5
Tourism guide for Hope extract;
"Rock and mountain climbing potential is relatively undeveloped. Hope is a hub. From Water Street you can see: Mount Holy Cross (originally called Isolillock, which translates from the Halkomelam to mean the Mountain with Two Heads),"
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Post by Gerry on Sept 30, 2008 10:33:02 GMT -5
Captain's Log; Supplemental:
The mountain is called Holy Cross Mountain because of a certain design which appears when its crevasses fill with snow. The form of a cross!
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Post by vilnoori on Sept 30, 2008 14:06:51 GMT -5
www.clubtread.com/routes/Route.aspx?Route=486There is a tiny alpine lake pictured there, but I wonder if the better candidate is Silverhope Lake? That is the only major lake south of Hope, other than Jones Lake which is right beside/behind Cheam Peak.
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Post by beegee on Sept 30, 2008 14:28:14 GMT -5
Hey Sandy --- Nice work, I don't know what elevation these "babies" can survive at, and we should not igore any possibility, so it could be, ----- I would say its kind of small, but we have no other descriptions as of yet, remember these guys had access to the lake without any apparent difficulty, so I also tend to lean towards Silver Lake, with the given information at present, ---- come on guys dig into the past for any info.... Thanks Sandy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2008 19:07:32 GMT -5
www.clubtread.com/routes/Route.aspx?Route=486There is a tiny alpine lake pictured there, but I wonder if the better candidate is Silverhope Lake? That is the only major lake south of Hope, other than Jones Lake which is right beside/behind Cheam Peak. Hi Vilnoori, If memory serves me correctly, I think Cougar Lake was a small alpine lake quite close to the USA border. The map also showed Silver Hope but it was larger than Cougar Lake. One of my old maps did not show Cougar at all. The recreational atlas was a little more detailed and I believe it showed Cougar Lake quite clearly. Saw a little light green and spotted salamander in the bush today that maybe measured 8 inches. Ken the Bushman |
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Post by vilnoori on Sept 30, 2008 20:34:47 GMT -5
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Post by vilnoori on Sept 30, 2008 20:40:24 GMT -5
if you give me the coordinates I can look it up on Google Earth, unfortunately there's a gazillion little alpine lakes south of Hope and North of the border. Almost every mountain has one, two or three. Even if you had a shape it would help?
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Post by vilnoori on Sept 30, 2008 20:41:22 GMT -5
Google Earth is based on satellite images so it should be on there but it might not be named or identified. Also another question, is there a road up or do you have to hike in? Are there any visible trails in?
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Post by rastaman on Oct 3, 2008 13:59:29 GMT -5
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it would make one interesting side trip to see if they're still living in the lake, now it may be just a local name, but if anyone can help with this ----- it would be a great start, and yes that area may also hold our "big friend" --- making it a worthwhile venture indeed.!!!!
