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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2006 13:39:43 GMT -5
Chehalis Sounds Identified
Thomas Steenburg and Gerry Matthews (GrandCherokee) were out on the Chehalis/Harrison River flats early this morning doing follow-up investigative work on possible sasquatch activity in the immediate area. At 9:30 a.m. precisely, while exploring along the edge of the bush-line on the flats, both were astounded to hear the by now familiar cries called the Chehalis Sounds emanating from a pair of coyotes.
I'm sure Thomas and Gerry will answer any questions you might have regarding what they saw and heard.
Ken Kristian West Coast Sasquatch Research
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Post by sebastian on Apr 5, 2006 23:05:48 GMT -5
Well, disappointing but it is also a jackpot. Just talked to Thomas, I think that we can now confidently dismiss some early alleged Sasquatch recordings from Payullup, Mt. St. Helen etc. Leaving only one: The Kenny Copper's. The Chehalis sounds can now served as reference for other unknown sound recordings.
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Post by Sean V. on Apr 5, 2006 23:27:20 GMT -5
There is one thing that no one has suggested yet.
Perhaps it was a Sasquatch & it was just mimicking the call of the coyotes. I'm not being a romantic when I say this either. It would be nice if a definate recording of the coyotes could be taken, I could then send it to our (WCSRO) sound engineer and have him compare it to the original Chehalis Sound recording. If the two recordings matched each other identically, then we would be able to say with 100% certainty that it was a sound produced by coyotes. But if the two seperate recordings varied in pitch & volume, then it could be assumed that two different creatures were making the same type of sound.
This isn't the end of the Chehalis Sound, it's just moving up to second gear.
Sean Viala Western Canadian Sasquatch Research Organization
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Post by sebastian on Apr 6, 2006 0:24:13 GMT -5
Too bad that Thomas and Gerry didn't record of coyotes' vocalisation earlier today. I will head out this weekend, may be I will try to record some. If so, I can send the recording to Bushman and he can send you a sound file. Sean, do you think diff mics will affect the pitch?
cheers, seb
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2006 0:53:30 GMT -5
Very odd. I've never heard a coyote sound like that. They're usually much more musical and varied in the sounds they produce when howling/yipping. This seems much more singular in the sound produced. You breed some strange animals in BC!
Interesting discussion. Muchalothairy
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2006 1:03:55 GMT -5
This BFRO report indicates a possible mimic of dog barks afte a vocalization. It could mean either a mimic by a Sasquatch was heard or this was also a coyote sounding like the Chehalis coyote. "...I have compared it to the recordings on this sight and it is very close to the Washington recordings, especially the one from 2005. I am so glad that my dad and mom both heard this! It just gave you the impression that it had huge lungs to make such a loud noise! But interestingly enough the last roar was ended with two very clear dog barks that I presume were mimicked... All of the dogs in the vicinty were going crazy except the dogs that were the closest to where this thing had traveled... " www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=11162Muchalothairy
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2006 1:35:04 GMT -5
Although disappointing I hope that finding out that the sound we recorded, now known as the Chehalis Sound, was coyotes doesn't discourage you from your work. The search for truth doesn't always pan out the way we want it to but by discounting one piece of information doesn't mean that the rest is without merit. We will keep up our vigil and I hope you will all carry on too.
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Post by Sean V. on Apr 6, 2006 2:00:21 GMT -5
Too bad that Thomas and Gerry didn't record of coyotes' vocalisation earlier today. I will head out this weekend, may be I will try to record some. If so, I can send the recording to Bushman and he can send you a sound file. Sean, do you think diff mics will affect the pitch? cheers, seb Hmmm..., I don't know if a different microphone will effect the pitch. It may or it may not, either way I'm sure that our sound engineer will work it out.
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Post by thomassteenburg on Apr 6, 2006 7:44:04 GMT -5
Nobody was more surprised and disappointed by what we witnessed on the flats yesterday than Gerry and myself. I have lived with coyotes around all my life and during that time I never heard one utter a sound like what we saw and heard Apr 5th, 2006, 09:30 a.m. It appears to be a rarely heard sound which the animals use to locate each other over distances. When the second coyote appeared the one making the sounds changed back to the more familiar Yip type call I have heard a thousand times before. We both watch as the two animals ran along the edge of the flats around the trailer park and headed toward the main road which was about half a mile to the west of our position. The sounds which Gerry and I heard were what our witnesses recorded and the same sounds which have had folks in the campground nervous of walking outside at night. The same sounds which are so similar to other alleged Sasquatch recordings made over the last 30 years from the Klamath river in Northern California to southwest B.C. Now this does not mean that Sasquatch are not around in this area of course. Coyotes are not an explanation to the many sighting reports and footprint findings in this heart of Sasquatch country since the coming of the white man. and they may not account for all the strange animal cry heard around here over the years. It just has given us an answer to the particular sounds which have come to be known as the 'Chehalis recordings', which at the same time has put the similar recordings over the last 30 years into question. But research is research and when the evidence points to an answer other than the Sasquatch, we must just accept the facts and carry on with the quest.
Thomas steenburg
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Post by mooseman on Apr 6, 2006 7:59:47 GMT -5
well said
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2006 10:05:32 GMT -5
And now the search for sasquatch continues full speed ahead... Carry on! Ken P.S. And now for a little fun: ;D The following stuff came to me yesterday in e-mails and I think the first message should be repeated with that unforgettable Swiss accent that was Rene Dahinden's trademark: "Da bloody sasquatch was just imitating da God dammed coyotes to screw wit Steenburg's head." Note: No return e-mail address or sender on the message above so I don't know who could have sent it or exactly where it came from. And next: ...or was that recorded sound really sasquatches imitating coyotes.......... And finally: It stands a better chance of being Dahinden's ghost than it does coyotes.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by sebastian on Apr 6, 2006 12:41:18 GMT -5
I have this idea. Why not do a little bike patrol along Morris Valley Road? It's quiet. Ride along Morris Valley Road during the early hours may not be a bad idea. Probably will see some wildlife.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2006 12:45:02 GMT -5
Sebastian:
Do you happen to have a carrier on the back of your bike?
Ken
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Post by sebastian on Apr 6, 2006 20:58:49 GMT -5
Carrier on my bike, do you mean a rack? Or a bike rack on my truck?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2006 22:12:14 GMT -5
Hi Sebastian:
I need someone with a bike outfitted with a carrier rack on the back willing to try an experiment on Morris Valley Road. Want to do it?
Ken
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