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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2005 17:16:05 GMT -5
I think GC will go along with me when I say there are many, many possible Sasquatch sightings in the Fraser Valley (and general Lower Mainland area) that the public never sees or hears about.
We hear of many possible Sasquatch sightings from the public and veteran investigator Thomas Steenburg that never see print.
Simply put, if everything in the possible Sasquatch sighting report does not look or sound right, it does not get mentioned. We may discuss it amongst ourselves, but it does not go much further than that.
Would you like to add anything to that, GC?
Bushman
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Post by Gerry on Jun 3, 2005 9:17:28 GMT -5
Actually I touched upon that kind of thing in another forum. Someone was talking about Washington having a bigger population of Sasquatch then BC..or elsewhere, because of its larger database of sightings on the BFRO. I was quick to point out that not every report ends up in the hands of the BFRO. So that is a poor standard to use for any speculation about numbers..trends..etc!
for example. Very few of John Green's sightings reports appear on the BFRO. And as you alluded to..very few of Steenburgs, either! Yet they are coming in every week. Anecdotal evidence might be a poor evidence..but it is the only kind that we have plenty of. In light of this one should be careful about the conclusion which they might draw from such. imho
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2005 17:29:26 GMT -5
I know here in Ga,or yet the South in general, I believe alot of sightings go unreported because ofthe nature of the people. Alot of folks don't like or trust strangers coming around, or even want people they know prying. They'll be nice and cordial to you but you wont get alot of info from them. They don't want to be considered nuts. There was a story I heard a few years ago where there were two hunters who refused to go back on some land they were hunting. The person that was telling me the story never went to any detail as to why they refused and would never say which track of land it is. I asked repeatedly, why and where and still to this day I get; " Oh you don't need to go messing around there." That's all I get and I know the person well and know he is telling the truth. I do have an idea of where the land is but unfortunately it is privately owned. But that is how folks are. You got to catch them in the right mood to get stuff out of them.
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Post by Gerry on Jun 3, 2005 17:48:56 GMT -5
I agree Mike. For the same reason getting information from native americans is catch as catch can. They have enough troubles, let alone having the white population think their loony tunes for recognizing this big ape which lives all over North America! Sometimes they must get a good laugh at us. "Now these Bigfoot guys know how we feel when we open our mouths."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2005 18:04:02 GMT -5
Hi mike2k1...and welcome to the West Coast Sasquatch forum. Hope you have some fun up here in BC. I think you'll find that good old country folk are much the same no matter where they come from in this great land. I find that the more I get in and use a style of friendly, no-push, easy-going investigative techniques, the more country-type people tend to open up about their unexplainable experiences in the bush with Sasquatch/Bigfoot. In one case it took me one month of begging before the land owner would even let me on his property. And once I got there with a camera and gear he stuck to me like glue and wouldn't let me out of his sight for a minute. Being friendly and courteous paid off in the end because I did find one possible sasquatch track on his property at the scene of a possible encounter.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2005 2:30:50 GMT -5
yea, there are many reports go unreported, when i lived in north idaho, i had talked to a few people who had seen or experienced something weird, but they didn't want to report it due to their jobs, and/or ridicule. the timber industry is big up there, and a lot of folks depend on it, and some think if the creature is found to be real, that the timber companies would go under....i am sure there are other states that the people feel that way, and probably in canada too........i know these creatures exist, and it seems like bigfoot research is taking steps backwards.....groups that want to be a tourist attraction, groups that want to be on tv all the time, groups that say their right and everyone else is wrong, groups that are prokill, and groups that shun the person who tells of a sighting, and are asked where's the evidence to back it up, no wonder people don't want to come forward....scuse me for the little rant....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2005 16:20:29 GMT -5
gc and bushman, is there a database somewhere that has the details of the bigfoot sightings in your area? i'd love to read about them
gawuldeepoo
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2005 18:17:30 GMT -5
gawuldeepoo: Firstly, I'd like to welcome you to the West Coast Sasquatch forum. Hope you have some fun here. As far as a database on possible Fraser Valley Sasquatch sightings, I'm afraid that you'll have to wait until our friend and fellow researcher Thomas Steenburg put out his next book. A good portion (but not all) of the Fraser Valley and area possible Sasquatch sightings that GC and I hear about stem from Thomas Steenburg and a larger group of investigators that he is connected with. As I'm sure GC can attest to, there is never a dull moment when some of the local Sasquatch researchers gather over at Thomas' place for coffee and an informational (BS) session. Bushman
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2005 10:36:40 GMT -5
thanks for the 'welcome' bushman, i'm looking forward to steenburg's next book then. is this something he's currently working on?
your coffee and bs sessions sound fun gael
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2005 13:05:24 GMT -5
yea, there are many reports go unreported, when i lived in north idaho, i had talked to a few people who had seen or experienced something weird, but they didn't want to report it due to their jobs, and/or ridicule. the timber industry is big up there, and a lot of folks depend on it, and some think if the creature is found to be real, that the timber companies would go under....i am sure there are other states that the people feel that way, and probably in canada too........i know these creatures exist, and it seems like bigfoot research is taking steps backwards.....groups that want to be a tourist attraction, groups that want to be on tv all the time, groups that say their right and everyone else is wrong, groups that are prokill, and groups that shun the person who tells of a sighting, and are asked where's the evidence to back it up, no wonder people don't want to come forward....scuse me for the little rant.... I agree OntheLoose. I have brought this subject up on another forum in the past. If a bonifide bigfoot is found, the logging and mining industroes would take a hit. and although I didn't care for most of the book, I thought that Thom Powell did a good job in that regards. A found bigfoot is an environmentalist's best friend. As Powell hinted, it would be the next spotted owl (which apparently nest about anywhere). Anyway, those were some good insights you brought up. Jon
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2005 14:57:35 GMT -5
thanks for the 'welcome' bushman, i'm looking forward to steenburg's next book then. is this something he's currently working on? your coffee and bs sessions sound fun gael Hi Gael, I believe that Thomas Steenburg thoroughly investigates and then compiles the credible Sasquatch sighting and vocalization reports he receives from various sources until he has enough for a book. He has passed a number of these reports (I have a couple recent reports here now) on to me when he stops by for a visit and coffee, and I must say that he certainly does a fantastic job in his interviews with people. I'll give him a call later today and ask him when he plans to launch his next book on Sasquatch. Oh yes...those Sasquatch BS sessions at Steenburg's are a lot of fun for sure. Bushman
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2005 16:26:55 GMT -5
Hi Gael,
I asked Thomas Steenburg when we could expect to see a new book but he says that he has no immediate plans. Thomas said that he is steadily collecting sighting reports but due to his present location and employment he finds it difficult to get things into print. I'm hoping he finds the time to get a book on Sasquatch out in the not too distant future. ;D
Bushman
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2005 16:31:36 GMT -5
Im sure you all know of the Patterson film and how he admitted it was fake. But A friend and i have come to believe he was just doing a cover up. For some reason or another he may just be wanting to hide the existance of Sasquatch. The exact reason we dont know, but we have come to highly consider this. What do you guys think?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2005 16:32:36 GMT -5
sorry i meant to put that last reply in the evidence forum. my things kinda messed up i think
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Post by Gerry on Jun 23, 2005 21:04:34 GMT -5
I don't think Patterson ever admitted it was a fake! Just rumors that he did!
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