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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 3:36:00 GMT -5
Interesting pictures. Speaking to those who accept the potential validity or at least possibly they are of a real infant sas - when u compare them size and scale to the other shots of the more "healty" bears - it appears to be disportionatly larger and different. Now mabey ive just had too many beers - but there appears to be something anatomically different. In the one snap where it is balancing on its arms leaning forward almost sticking its rump out - reminds me of other primate behaviour.
So for those who do not discredit it immediatly - if indeed the real thing - r there any out there who would change or begin using deer phermone and salt lick bait? If one were to approach scientifically - with the initial acceptance of the possibility of film validity - u can postulate that "deer phermone and salt like" is a confirmed natural attractant for sas. The fact if its real its a juvenile confirms this as it may indicate a natural rather than learned predisposition.
Ive been thinking about buying some trail cams but i keep thinking someone will stumble across them and steal them..lol. Guess only fix to that is isolated location?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 23:19:51 GMT -5
I can think of no better way to capture a Sas than by this very means. A conclusive discovery will probably involve such technology.
An interesting point mentioned in the blog that came with the photos is the quadrapedal nature of young Sas. I didn't know that this was that common. But supports the notion that such a creature is merely an North american ape of some sort.
This would be a Eastern Sas in Pennsylvania and they do seem to report different physical qualities than in the NW states and BC. Eastern Sas are thought to be shorter and leaner. These photos would fit that profile pretty good.
There is bear activity, and this animal could be just another bear making the rounds as the cubs run away. It doesn't look like a bear, but a quite unhealthy one could look like that, I guess. If I saw such a thing at night I would definately not think it was a bear. If a bear can look like this, then it might account for some Sas sightings.
They are interesting photos but just not conclusive. And I would lean towards an emaciated, sick bear. Physical evidence should have been noticable to prove this, such as feces and tracks. But doesn't sound like this was done. Once again a hot lead not followed up with comprehensive data collection. Has the area been defined for further research?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2007 20:09:24 GMT -5
Finally we have a picture of sasquatch caught on a trail camera. With all of the trail cameras out there, especially in the eastern US, it's about time. The new breed of IR stealth cameras with no visible flash bodes well for the future and more pictures should be coming out. I hope to upgrade my day only camera to one of these day/night units. The use of pheremones and salt is also worth considering. I would also like to put a camera on a gut pile. When I shot a deer a few weeks ago not too far from where I found fresh tracks last year I had to be alert for both bears and sasquatch as the light faded. It would have been interesting to see what cleaned it up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2007 14:34:20 GMT -5
For sure the 2 pics are of an animal that looks very un-bear looking. If not a bear, then what??? Sasquatch would be the only other option. To me it looks like a Sasquatch/Bear hybrid. I know that can't be so I go cautious and say Bear. My big problem is the left foot or paw in Pic #3. It just isn't a Sasquatch foot as one would envision one. It looks like a bear foot from what I can see.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2007 16:26:34 GMT -5
As much as I was hoping for it to be a confirmed sas it appears to be a badly emaciated bear caused by mange.Or is it???
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Post by vilnoori on Nov 2, 2007 17:13:10 GMT -5
I think it is a mangy bear. The reason I think so is the high angularity of the hip bones in shot #2. See them? But I have to point out that shots like this one are extremely easy to fake, too. But given the ambiguity, my guess is mangy bear. Not saying that I disbelieve in Sas, just my judgment call this time, for what it's worth.
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Post by Sean V. on Nov 6, 2007 1:56:26 GMT -5
I would have to agree with you on that, Vilnoori. A black bear with a bad case of the Mange seems to be what was captured on film in this case.
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Post by Gerry on Nov 25, 2007 12:27:24 GMT -5
I keep thinking..why would bears allow a sasquatch to roam with them? And these bears [bear] look very young..where is the mother? I do not recall any event or encounter where squatch was seen working in unison..or even travelling with another species. For that reason, the pictures would have had more impact with me..if the bear was not present.
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Post by vilnoori on Nov 25, 2007 22:46:47 GMT -5
Um...I do remember one account where a sasq was sighted with a bear, like a man with a dog. Can't remember where or when, though.
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Post by Gerry on Nov 27, 2007 22:08:56 GMT -5
I am sure that if you bothered you could find squatch traveling with every kind of creature in North America. But the question is..would such a thing make any sense?? Has anyone ever heard of interspecies co-operation like that? I don't think a survival instinct would ever allow for such a thing. Animals have followers and parasites...but the idea of a bear travelling withg a sasquatch is really out there I too have hear stories, like the one out of Alaska where these people on a small plane were being shuttled into a remore lodge and claim to have seen a giant hair covered being sheparding some elk..and using a large tree limb! But so what! I could just as easily claim that my Aunt Matilda was spotted doing the same. With no names or follow up..it is just a fairy tale! What do you others think?
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Post by Sean V. on Nov 28, 2007 0:16:52 GMT -5
The first thing that came to mind when I thought of a Sasquatch travelling with a bear, was: Why? What would be the point?.
Why would a Sasquatch keep the company of an animal that it competes with for resources.
I think that if a Sasquatch was spotted along with (beside) another wild creature, that it may be keeping it as a meal on the hoof/paw (ie. Livestock). But even that is a far-fetched theory and not one that I would take much stock in.
And yes, I too remember the story you are talking about, Gerry. If mind my serves me correctly (and it may not be) the pilot made a comment about the creature being at least thirteen feet tall. The folks in the aircraft were just passing over some woods, when the herd of elk came running out, being pursued by the Sasquatch. And yes, there were no names mentioned, no way of contacting the witnesses, and no way of actually finding the location yourself. In all, it amounts to a great long-weekend campfire story, but is nothing more than that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 2:14:49 GMT -5
unidentified animal came along twenty-eight minutes after bear cubs
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Post by rastaman on Nov 28, 2007 13:02:48 GMT -5
Where is the proof that an unidentified animal came along 28 minutes after bear cubs?
I think this whole thing is being blown out of proportion. In my opinion and many others, its only a bear cub. If it walks like a bear then it must be a bear. The angle of the photo distorts the fact that its only a bear cub. Nothing too convincing here that its a BF.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 14:25:27 GMT -5
If your thinking is that the Sasquatch are a type of ape, then the bear compnion does seem far-fetched. There are precedents, though. Coco had a kitten that she named, adored and mourned. If (as I hold) you think the Sasquatch are a people, then there isn't anything unusual about having a pet. The fact that they 'compete' for resources only suggests that it might be easier for one to provide for the other. Orphan bears are quite common and if the Sas are mostly solitary where is the harm? If you are big enough to manage it, bears can be quite playful. I think a canine would be a better perimeter gaurd, but if you aren't worried about animal attacks that wouldn't be an issue.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2007 15:42:17 GMT -5
time display on bottom right hand corner of photo indicates unidentified animal was photographed twenty eight minutes after bear cubs.
Coco was a herbivore.Sasquatch is believed to be an omnivore, thus bears would be direct competition for food and i'm not sure that the bears would have caught Rodney King's speech on CNN."Can't we all just get along!"
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