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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2005 12:05:57 GMT -5
Lookoutman7 called me the other night and mentioned something in another very long conversation that occurred during a recent possible Sasquatch encounter he and his family experienced in northern Montana (I'm sure he will tell us all about it when he is ready) that got me thinking we might be underestimating the intelligence and cunning of the creature.
I have heard of many Sasquatch researchers that wholeheartedly believed they were being observed while setting camera traps, baits or forms of ambushes with the hopes of capturing evidence of the beast's existence.
Do you think Sasquatch has the intelligence, cunning and whit to detect that humans are setting traps or ambushes for it?
Do you think we would have better luck in our research if we played things out naturally and were better prepared to seize the opportunity to film if and when it presented itself?
Do you think Sasquatch can be fooled or tricked with a natural plot using information from past reports?
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Post by sebastian on Aug 4, 2005 21:54:18 GMT -5
Hi Bushman, I personally think that sasquatch are not that smart (but likely to be the smartest "wildlife" out there). Think about it, they will approach people or buildings at times, so I don't think that they will knowingly avoid cameras. But they may not alreadily approach baits (food); they may have concepts of things that are out of place or season. As far as the usage of cam trekkers, I think the issue was covered in the other post "Why no photo?". cheers, seb ps. are there any footprints (from Lookoutman7)?
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Post by lookoutman7 on Aug 5, 2005 11:05:06 GMT -5
Hi Bushman & Sebastian-
If my mother was correct, the Sasquatch had a hand on a gate to a residence, and was about to walk in.
I witnessed the hand up on a fence area in the Princeton sighting in 1985.
In this Montana visit - something stayed on or near rock surfaces for almost an hour-and-forty-five-minutes. I found tracks of our vehicle. I found indications of us. I also found tracks of the deer that had visited before. But there was nothing else...nothing. We didn't venture to far away from the tower. The forest might have had something - who knows.
I've noted, that something may have used moonlight to help in it's quest. It left upon the arrival of the hint of dawn. I feel it would have taken 3 or 4...200 lb men, to cause that thump of weight in that jump. It actually spooked us (right from practically silence to that thud.) This happened...maybe...25 feet from us.
I really have no idea what the Sasquatch is really capable of - we only seen certain things in the sightings of 74 and 85. There were approximately nine things that happened at the tower in Montana. As I mentioned to Bushman - a bear might do 3, and a cat might do 3. Man was next with 5. The damn Bigfoot could have done all 9. That's when I started to follow this up. The absence of tracks bothers me. It was easy setting up the deer.
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Post by Gerry on Aug 5, 2005 13:45:19 GMT -5
With no direct visual contact in Montana..it leaves it wide open as to what could have been there that night. Worse! You could probably go back there and rent that place out for a year..and exoerience nothing more then early morning and late afternoon deer arrivals !
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Post by lookoutman7 on Aug 5, 2005 17:20:24 GMT -5
Yes...I was thinking the same thing. No visual and a lot of something. That would be how it works - a year's bookings and not even a humming-bird showing up.
I'd really like to work on the track issue though. I didn't find a taste of anything other than our presence, and that of the visiting deer. I'm starting to feel, that the further a person went out in something like that - you may just get an answer.
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Post by Gerry on Aug 5, 2005 21:04:00 GMT -5
Maybe it is a chance to think outside of the box? Maybe it was not the fact that they did not leave footprints or traces behind.... But rather the area that you searched was a rocky landscape which obscured them. You could be very well be right that if the parameter was expanded into the trees..something may have come up to add proof to your experience.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2005 14:46:05 GMT -5
Not just rocky ground either. Sometimes prints are very hard to discern in moist leaf litter. I was following behind Sasquatchery the other day in a really swampy area. I was paying very careful attention to his tracks and noticed that the ground was spongy moist and his tracks almost disappeared right after he made them. It was if the ground was swallowing them up. Not saying he didn't leave sign but the terrain made the tracks very hard to see. Throw in different light conditions and it would be almost impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2005 17:43:29 GMT -5
This is just my two cents on the matter. I can't track worth a damn and in the woods i'm not too bad on my own but little things would escape me. Come to my house or around an area i'm familiar with, and i'll notice the changes in the environment around me. Especially objects that shouldt be there or don't suit the area. I've seen a few of the camera traps and stands, they dont exactly blend in with the areas they're placed. Personally I beleive that Sasquatch has the wit and intelligence to notice something out of place like this. Most individuals I dont beleive would be capable of effectively hiding something like that, some hunters excepted. From alot of the reports it has a level of awareness that enables it to avoid obvious areas where it leaves tracks and will be noticed. Not much of a stretch for it to look for other signs that shouldnt be in the area. Personally if I had a large chunk of land in the bush somewhere, i'd cultivate the area with various seasonal forage for the guys, and then slowly introduce components of a system till its finally built. The environment would erase the marks of our passage. Sure it would take a few seasons, but the odds would be about the same if not a bit better then the hit and miss approach we're trying
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Post by Gerry on Aug 28, 2006 14:27:23 GMT -5
If it were to be done at all, I think that yours is a practical approach. But there has never been a trail cam yet that has ever produced the goods...and I do not believe the reason to be Squatch is aware of them when activated. I think he just isn't there.
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