Will sound blasting work?

[sebastian]

Bushman and Thomas Steenburg both told me about the strange sounds at night near Mission. Thomas told me that he heard the unexplained sound last year around this time. It was the first time in his 26 years of researching. Thomas recorded that, for the past four years, there were reports of strange sounds. Interestingly, all strange sounds were reported between mid-July to mid-August. I wonder if there is a seasonality relation?
We all know that we really don't have any evidence to support or suggest that sasquatch making those sounds. Unless someone is actually watching and listening a sasquatch making such sounds, we can only assume. Furthermore, we really don't know the meaning of those calls if they came from sasquatch.
Long distance calls in the biological world usually serve two functions; they are either territorial displays or mating calls. But if sasquatch are more complex in behaviour, their calls could mean a lot of things.
So, will sound blasting work? I don't know. May be there are many variables such as location, time of day, sound played, season, and loudness. To me, sound blasting really is just a fun factor. It is always interesting to hear what's out there.
cheers,
seb

[Thomas Steenburg]

???Will sound basting work? Well you might get a reply, and so what? You heard a animal cry of some kind in response to a recording which may or may not have come from a sasquatch.
At this time in B.C at least their are not to many researchers doing it. In the U.S. the first thing a researcher has to do after sound blasting is find out if anybody else was doing the same thing at the same time within 10 miles. Sound blasting is interesting, especially when a answering call is heard. But as evidence to the existence of the sasquatch, it's useless.
Thomas Steenburg

[sebastian]

Good point, Thomas. There are probably far less "sound blasters" in the whole of Canada than in the Washington state alone.
Well, put the exixtence question aside, there are many recordings out there, which recording(s) will you choose for sound blasting and why? This is not just a question to Thomas , but to anyone who is interested.
Here is mine:
1. MM's Ohio Scream. High Frequency sound easy to broadcast without very loud speaker. The vocalisation has only a little "echo effect". Great for blasting in open area.
2. B& M's whooping. Very clear recording, but the type of sound, at least to me, is not meant for long distant communication. May be use in a wooded environment.
3. Kenny Cooper's. It sounded like distress call. Good for upsetting your local sasquatch population (joking).
Mainly, I will look for clear recordings without too much echoes and wind noise. The echo effect really distort the original sound.
cheers,
seb

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well, most of the folks that did do sound blasting, didn't come up with any replies, i have heard more replies from something, just using my own voice, such as whoops, owl calls, coyote calls, whistles etc. even wood knocks and rock clacking......maybe the call blasting is too perfect for the creatures, or maybe there is a certain noise in a recorded blast, that we can't hear, but the creatures can.......and the call blasting can be confusing to other folks in the area, i had to ask around to see if anyone was callblasting on sat at 9am in the gifford pinchot nat'l forest, because i heard the siren-type yell, accompanied with whoops and howls that lasted for close to 2 mins. i didn't expect to hear anything due to the river noise and time of day, so i didn't take my recorder with me on the hike, i did answer back with 2 whoops, then heard a distant howl and used a rock the size of a bowling ball and did 3 rock clacks, sit and waited for a while, and had nothing else. i did have a witness with me, and we found the road that went up that ridge, and there hadn't been any signs of human activity for a while, some nice camp spots, and my partner found some interesting tracks going straight up a slide area, but also lots of elk tracks, but they traveled the side of the area. i do plan on going back, would like to go this weekend, but not sure if i can, possibly the following weekend, and as the crow flies, this area was less than 15 miles from ape canyon and ape caves, where i was at, it made a triangle from the other 2 points.

[sebastian]

Hello ontheloose,
Sound blasting at 9:00 am? I think that most people blast sounds at night, not in the morning? It is very interesting that you heard a range of different sounds (vocals and rock clacks). The siren-typed yell, was it similar to MM's Ohio Howl? May be it was really a sasquatch, or someone really know what sasquatch sounded like.
cheers,
seb

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hey sebastion, are you the same person i met at the bellingham conference? if so its me, esther......
yea, the siren type scream is the ohio call, but there are also the same in washington, and other states, and the more i think about it the more i do believe i heard the real thing, also thinkin maybe they were hunting elk, not sure just a thought, lots of elk around that area, but still can't say one way or another, but when i do go back up there, i will stay prepared, but with my luck when i am prepared i have nothing, and when i'm not prepared is usually when i see or hear something, just my dumb luck lol

[Thomas Steenburg]

;)Don't worry about it Esther. all you would have come out with is a recording of some strange noise which may or may not have come from a sasquatch. Of all the recordings used for sound blasting I'm surprised nobody has try ed the Kenny Cooper recordings from the Lummi reserve in 1975? these were recored over a police mike just after a sasquatch was spotted by deputy sheriff Cooper himself, or so the story goes? Have the sounds on old tape but the quality is not good. I don't know if better quality copies exist? Cooper did not see the creature utter the sounds but he did have his police car spot light on it just minutes before it walked away in some trees. The sounds came from the trees about a minute later and were recorded on a dicta phone back at police H.Q. over his radio mike.
Signed still using library computer Thomas Steenburg.

[sebastian]

Hi Esther! This is Sebastian who went to the Bellingham conference. I think that sasquatch may use wood-banging or rock clacking to "coordinate" hunt. Most animals don't really react to those kind of noise. I don't know, may you can try wood-banging near a herd of elks to see if they react. There are some really small recorders from radioshack. Some are sound activated, meaning that they will stay off until a sound loud enough is detected. You can just put it in your pocket when you go hiking.
Hi Thomas,
If the sound that Kenny Cooper recorded came from the sasquatch that he had seen, most likely that the sound was a distress call or a warning call. I don't know the effect (on sasquatch) of sound blasting Kenny Cooper's; but logically, it may triggers "fight or flight" reactions. If it fights, then we will be in big trouble. But I highly doubt that.
cheers,
seb

[Stone man]

IMO blasting sounds from another reagion, like blasting Sierra sounds in Ohio, may be counter productive. You dont know:
A) what the calls mean, could be territorial, saying stay away or some type of threatening calls.
B) Could be a whole different dialect (Assuming dialects exist) and unitelligible to the local BF population.

[sebastian]

Hello Stone man,
I have to say that those siren-type howls could be territorial displays, may be also to warn off other predators. I think that it is likely to have a dialectual difference in those chattering type sounds. But I don't know if that can be applied to those "long distant" calls. Those loud howls or screams don't seem to have a dialectual structure. Like a human yell; it is just a yell and it is quite universial among human. It is only the moviation(s) behind the yell that we don't understand.
I am thinking of an experiment. I will go to my area of interest and leave some meat or so in order to attract some bears (most likely will be black bears). From a safe distant, I will sound blast certain alleged sasquatch vocalisations and see if there is any effect on the bears' behaviour.
cheers,
seb

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Sebastion...I don't care to speculate on whether or not blasting the unknown sounds or various calls (only thought to be that of a Sasquatch) will or won't work in attracting a live Sasquatch to your particular research area. I'm not trying to say that a certain call or calls won't play on the suspected nature of the beast and possibly make Sasquatch very curious, hopefully leading it to investigate the sounds. To date, I simply don't think sound blasting unknown calls has been a very productive research method.

However, I will say that giving the wrong call at the wrong time can be very counterproductive when hunting many big-game animals.

Be careful baiting Sasquatch with meats as some bears can and do become very possessive of food in short order. However, should you ever have a black or grizzly bear come in to a bait intended Sasquatch, please try banging two large stones together at a good time. I would be very curious to hear your results.

Note: Do not bait bears in BC if you happen to have a weapon along and/or it's during hunting season — it is illegal.

Bushman

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I ran across the following article in Autumn William's Oregonbigfoot.com archived June Newsletter (http://archives.zinester.com/16335) and thought it would fit in with what we were all discussing on this thread:

PREDATOR CALLS AS AN AUDITORY ATTRACTANT

Eyewitness reports indicate that Bigfoot is an omnivore... AND an opportunistic feeder. Injured animals make for a quick and easy snack for predators... in all probability, Sasquatch is no exception.

FOXPRO SOUNDS PREDATOR CALLER FROM ALLPREDATORCALLS.COM

While traditional callblasting consists of playing purported Bigfoot calls, we have no idea what those calls might mean. For all we know, the creature whose voice was recorded might have been warning others of the presence of humans in the area... playing these calls might be a powerful DEtractant! There is little evidence that I know of, based on my own personal experience and THE LACK OF SUCCESSFULLY RECORDED CALLBACKS reportedly heard by other researchers, to indicate that callblasting (at least with "bigfoot" sounds) is an appropriate approach to attracting these creatures' attention.

That doesn't mean that we need to discount the use of auditory attractants altogether, however. Food is a powerful attractant for any creature and what better "bait" than an auditory cue that a feeding opportunity is readily available?

It was with this in mind that I began my search for the ultimate predator caller. I called AllPredatorCalls.com and was pleased to find myself on the phone with AP Jones, the owner of a company with the most extensive selection of predator calls I've ever seen... more than 90 different manufacturers in one place! Mr. Jones was not only very friendly but knowledgeable as well. And... are you ready for this? He not only didn't laugh when I told him what I was "hunting" for, but he took the time to discuss my needs and recommend various products and techniques! <grin>

After much discussion, AP recommended the Foxpro Remote Controlled caller. He explained that it was customizable with 32 different sounds and could be operated by remote control, allowing the operator to keep his/her distance behind a blind or in a treestand. For customization, AP asked me to visit their sounds list page and select the sounds I felt would be most appropriate for a "bigfoot caller".

I chose several wounded animal calls that would represent prey indigenous to my neck of the woods: rabbits, a fawn in distress, etc. (Those in the southern states would also find wild hog calls appropriate.) Interestingly, AP also recommended CROW CALLS, explaining that when trying to attract any predator, it's highly effective to play crow calls first, get the crows circling, THEN play your animal distress call. He explained that noisy crows indicate the presence of a free meal.

I was greatly impressed with his expertise and willingness to share it. I was equally impressed when the gamecaller arrived. Half the size that I thought it would be and lightweight to boot, it's easy to operate and the speaker packs a wallop. This little guy is LOUD. It runs on two AA batteries and will broadcast continually for HOURS on just those batteries. It has an 1/8" input jack so you can plug in an external CD player or microphone (for doing your own hoots and hollers) and a similar output jack so you can plug it in to a standalone speaker.

In addition to the 29 crystal clear stock animals sounds I'd requested, Mr. Jones went another step above and beyond. On the phone with him, I had three rather strange sound requests... a flock of songbirds chirping, a baby crying, and children giggling. Sure enough, when my caller arrived, it was loaded with three high quality tracks of those very sounds! Talk about customization! <grin>

Predator callers from AllPredatorCalls.com range in price from $21.95 for the Cass Creek Callers to $879.00 and everything in between. Callers are available for deer hunters, bear hunters, turkey hunters, birders... even Bigfoot Researchers! They offer a full sound library... but don't worry - if you're feeling overwhelmed, just give them a call at 888-826-9683. There are lots of knowledgeable people there to help you choose the right one for you. Unlike some online store owners, AP Jones ENCOURAGES you to call and he is just as likely to answer the phone as anyone else.

Source: archives.zinester.com/16335/50856.html

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sounds interesting, like the idea of crows.. they're always in the area where meats available. Only downside I can see... a minor one... might get eaten by a bear lol. Have to balance the calls against other predators that could be attracted. Might look into that though