Why no photo of a sasquatch?

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One would think that with all the new fandangled camera traps and trail cams hanging on trees in the woods of North America today that someone would have captured a "good photo" of a sasquatch/bigfoot by now?

Why do you think that camera traps or tail cams have not worked in getting a good photo of sasquatch/bigfoot yet?

What do you think we have to do to improve our success rate?

[sebastian]

Hello to all! I've just signed up . Anyway, I know that most (but not all) scouting cams have time delay. That's the time between the motion detected and the activation of the cam. As a matter of fact, those cams are not designed to take photo of fast moving objects but rather objects that hang around. I know that some new digital cams can be set for real time photo-taking, but they are expensive.
On the other hand, I suspect that sasquatch have a coat of fur so thick which may insolate the radiation of body heat. Motion snesors, then, will not work.
I don't think that there are many cams out there. The chances are like if you would going fishing when there are only three fish in Harrsion Lake.
I am about to try my home made IR cam with motion sensors. With an additional IR lamp, I can film in 0 Lux given the subject is within a range of 70 feet.
cheers,
seb

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Hi Seb,

Welcome to the West Coast Sasquatch forum.
We look forward to hearing about your Sasquatch research, and to your contributions to the forum.

Thomas Steenburg was telling me about your new infrared camera the other day at our meeting. Sounded like quite the invention. Hope it helps you with getting the video of Sasquatch.

Your theory on Sasquatch's fur/hair being thick enough to insulate it from radiating body heat and therefore not triggering these trail cams sounds very plausible indeed.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on Sasquatch being able to detect infrasound (or ultrasound) possibly being emitted from internal battery powered electronic mechanisms in these trail or game cams.

Bushman

Edited to add: Sound with frequencies below 201-Hz is called infrasound, and sound with more than 20000Hz is called ultrasound.

[sebastian]

Hi Bushman,
Actually I think that sasquatch can hear infrasound. If I use a model that sasquatch have the same ear structure as human, their ear drums will be proportionally bigger. The bigger the surface of their ear drums, the lower the vibrations that they can detect. But if their ear structure is different from human's, then, that's anyone's guess.
I am very sure though that sasquatch cannot see IR light. There is no terrestrial animal can see IR.
Most cams are on the standby mode when they are not activated. There will be no sound from any mechanical parts. But I am not sure if there will be some kind of electrical "humming" noise from the batteries. Certainly, I don't think that it is a factor. At Harrison west FSR, there are lines of power lines. They emitt "humming" noise greater than any battery. Sasquatch, if they live around there and/or crossing the road regularly, they will get used to those noise.
Thomas told me that sasquatch may approach vehicles if they don't see anyone inside. There are a few reports like that at Harrison. My IR cam is designed to be mounted on the roof rack or outside my truck and I can monitor the surounding from the inside.
cheers,
seb

[Gerry]

This night vision thing is a 'caution' ain't it? 0 lux should be good for filming! Good luck!

Sometimes I think people go out into the woods and sit on a stump and start wondering where all of the Squatches are. Then proceed to write a list of reasons why they don't come around.
Infrared..reception..emmissions.
Hearing..infrasound..ultrasound.

Seb, you made some good points about placement, noise..or lack thereof..and comfort level of something always being present.
A game trail cam is not the most threatening thing in the world...makes you wonder why Squatch can't get used to travelling by them.
Or maybe there is just no Squatch within a thousand miles?

But the speculation is fun. It might eventually onvocer a truth. We sure could use more of them!

[sebastian]

Hi GC!
I don't think that there is no sasquatch within a thousand miles. But I do think that they keep on moving within their home ranges and don't think that they will stay in one spot for very long. Why no photos? It's all about chances. There aren't enough trail cams out there.
cheers,
seb

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Bushman,

William Dranginis is convinced that Bigfoot can hear ultrasounds. He had an occasion where he had a camera mounted on a barn in a BF Hot Spot. The camera picked up on a large shadow figure followed by something tapping on the casing of the camera and then the camera was destroyed.

He also has had deer walk straight up to the cameras and look directly into them as if they know exactly where they are. He has theorized that if deer and other wildlife can hear and detect ultrasound, then why not Bigfoot? Could explain why we simply can't get a good video capture of the big guy.

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bwillard said:

Bushman,

William Dranginis is convinced that Bigfoot can hear ultrasounds. He had an occasion where he had a camera mounted on a barn in a BF Hot Spot. The camera picked up on a large shadow figure followed by something tapping on the casing of the camera and then the camera was destroyed.

He also has had deer walk straight up to the cameras and look directly into them as if they know exactly where they are. He has theorized that if deer and other wildlife can hear and detect ultrasound, then why not Bigfoot? Could explain why we simply can't get a good video capture of the big guy.

Bwillard,

I believe you hit the nail on the head with that one.

From what I have seen (or as of yet haven't seen) I would say there is something to your theory on some animals being able to detect ultrasound being emitted from some or all trail or video cams.

Most wild animals have hearing far superior to humans from what I have personally witnessed in all my years in the bush. Sounds that are not familar to — or known to be from within an animal's habitat — are "always" quickly detected by wild creatures that are aware of their surroundings for the purpose of survival.

I also wholeheartedly believe that most researchers do not take the effect that ultrasound or infrasound possibly plays on Sasquatch seriously simply because "humans" can't hear these frequencies of sound.

I think I would be reasonably safe to say that we humans tend to dismiss or underestimate what can't be heard or seen by us because we feel we are superior to most wild creatures.

To help solve this mystery, perhaps it's time we tried to put our selves in the tracks of the maker and thought like a sasquatch?

Bushman

[Sierramadre]

I wonder if Sasquatch have some form of perception where they might know what the thoughts or intentions of BF hunters are, much the same way as a dog or other animal can sense fear. If this were the case, it might explain why there are limited photos and limited intentional encounters with these big guys. Just a thought.

[lookoutman7]

This seems to be another one of those puzzling
things. But I'll tell you what...

Where my two sightings took place, seems to be
a general area, where this creature treads. Sadly,
it's been years. (1974 & 1985.) But, what I would
have liked to try, was post a monitoring system on
the corner of the apartment building where our
mother lived. Post it right in the corner, under the
roof over-hang on the third floor...24-7. It looks like
it's watching the facility, but it is actually watching
another area. (Even the Sasquatch wouldn't figure
that out.) Who'd review the product - poor soul!

Good thing is, the creature has been sighted in the
region as little as four years ago...about 10 k's away.
And if Tim Martindale was initially correct - the beast
is still in the region just in 2004? (Only north.)

And, while we're on opinions, I'd really like to stage
a device up on that water tower by the airport. But
then again, we may be infringing on a Bigfoot's rights.
And we don't want that!

lookoutman

[Sierramadre]

Would that qualify as the Big brother mentality?

[lookoutman7]

Sierramadre-

Big Brother would be a bad topic for me. Still, this
type of thing might just film the Sasquatch. Who cares
about watching other things. (We have enough reality
programming already!)

But I would like to add...though - that this subject of
Big Brother is in my thought. I have a novel that is
approximately 425-450 pages long - being structured.
People have no idea what is really being put together
these days - really. I hate the approach. And it will be
the technically advanced Countries that will hurt all of
us the most. (Long story.) I hope it makes it some day.
You need proof-postive these days - I found some of
that. But I agree with you.

I find looking for the Big Guy relaxes a person. And, if
I never see the creature again, at least it has allowed
me to again spend some quality time with family. Just
another reason to share the wilderness...eh!

lookoutman

[Gerry]

All of this talk is good and well about Squatch being able to detect trail cams.
Yet we manage to get pictures of all manner of beasts with these things..but no Squatch.
Can Squatch hear what other animals cannot?
And if they could...where is their curiosity?
They try to open doors.
They peer into windows.
They creep up on cars.
They observe humans.
But yet..let them find a little box attached to a tree..and they avoid it like a plague.
I don't get it..
Aside from that I cannot fathom what possible noise a camera could make when it is not activated?
But, as I said..every other creature is curious about these cams...except for Squatch.
Something does not add up here.
But to get a picture of a Squatch on a camera in one location is a million to one shot because of their low numbers.
What luck would I have of getting a picture of a wolverine with a game cam? About the same odds! that does not mean the wolverine is on to my camera in the tree. imho

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admin said:

This night vision thing is a 'caution' ain't it? 0 lux should be good for filming! Good luck!

Sometimes I think people go out into the woods and sit on a stump and start wondering where all of the Squatches are. Then proceed to write a list of reasons why they don't come around.
Infrared..reception..emmissions.
Hearing..infrasound..ultrasound.

Seb, you made some good points about placement, noise..or lack thereof..and comfort level of something always being present.
A game trail cam is not the most threatening thing in the world...makes you wonder why Squatch can't get used to travelling by them.
Or maybe there is just no Squatch within a thousand miles?

But the speculation is fun. It might eventually onvocer a truth. We sure could use more of them!

GC,

After having watched the Travel Channel shows, and Discovery Channel shows on Bigfoot, I think that is a big part of the problem, they go itno the woods, set up a big "bigfoot" camp to research and find "the bigguy" and everyone, inculding Helen Keller would know they are out there.

I'm not sure I believe in the infrasound argument. For them to hear and recognize, and then avoid it, then that would idnicate they understand the device itself and what it's used for. Suing that argument then puts us in a similar situation as those people in that mivoe "Sasquatch" with Lance Henrikson. Remember they had the DNA sample and Sasquatch was out to get it so he could remain anonymous?


If we are delaing with a shy, intelligent animal, then there are other reasons possibly he, or she avoids forest cams, scent, human activity, etc. Occam's Razor, look for the simplest solution.

As Grand Cherokees said, there might not be a BF within a thousand square miles. Also, how many who use cams take them outside traditional human areas of forest penetration?

Jon

[Gerry]

all very intelligent statements and questions.