What the heck is it?

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Hi All:

There is another video of something here:

youtube.com/watch?v=OHUgvxyyRqo&search=sasquatch

My opinion: That suit looks awful baggy to me.

Bushman

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The guy who made the video has been on the BFF for several hours yesterday and today. His discription and thoughts are rather compelling. It does not look like a bear. Could it be a hoax - maybe, but my openion on it being false is slipping a bit. But I am not ready to declare it a b.f. due to the lack of detail of a video taken about 4:15 in the morning. Maybe more can be said when/if the video is enhansed.
As far as it looking "baggy" - at my age I look pretty baggy. So we could have an over-weight and old subject. Unfortunatly we do not have enough good pics of The Big Guy to know the varried physical types. From a number of reports, it seems that sasquatches come in about all sizes and forms. And we just do not know enough to say what is the "normal physiology" of a Sas is.
If we go on the basis of my 4 friends who have seen 3 bigfoots - one discribed a young one that had an average build. The second saw a well muscled Sas that resembled a basketball power foreword (well built, but more slimish, not the body builder type). While the 2 that saw one saw a double-wide refrigerator with a head, arms and legs sticking out of it. Big and "overweight". (And yes, they said they needed a bigger gun!). So from these discription for different parts of the country, I have no idea what a bigfoot is suppose to look like. That is why I am looking at other issues on this video than just the appearence.

[Gerry]

That is the wierdest bear I've ever seen!

[bushape]

bear.

[Deleted]

Definitely not a bear. My guess is a guy in a suit but the image quality is just not good enough to say either way. Whenever a new video or photo surfaces I go through the excitement/letdown cycle. I think the lack of decent video or photo evidence is the only thing that could sway me towards skepticism. Thank god for the PG film! I saw the Patterson film when I was a kid in the early '70's. It was being shown on the big screen along with some other footage of interviews etc. I was impressed with it then and my opinion hasn't changed a bit.
I had to talk my older brother into taking me because no one else wanted to. I remember someone speaking between films and a lot of plaster casts to view. I don't remember who was speaking and touring with the PG film.
Does anyone know who it would have been? Rene Dahinden? John Green? Did Patterson himself ever tour the film across Canada? Unfortunately I can't remember the exact year but I would ballpark it around 1974.

[Sean V.]

I does walk like a bear that is on it's hind legs, but my vote is for a person in a costume of some kind.

[bushape]

Definitely BEAR!

[Sean V.]

bushape said:

Definitely BEAR!

I will admit, it very well could be a bear.

But what makes you so sure of it? Do you have some sort of incontrovertable proof that it is definately a bear, or is it just your opinion. I'm not trying to start any sort of issue here, I'm just curious as to how you can call it so easily.

[Deleted]

Bears do not walk on their hind legs. They shuffle at best with their crotch very low to the ground. This is not even a trained circus bear. GET REAL!

[sebastian]

There is a possibility of that this video is genuine. There is a vaguely butt cheek and the "hair line along the back (just like Patty). The arms look quite long. The sole has the same colour as Patty. The first step looks rather short though, almost as if it looses balance a bit. The most interesting part is it turns and goes back into the darkness rather heading straight into the headlight range.
I will say it is either a real sasquatch or a real wookie.

[Sean V.]

muchalothairy said:

Bears do not walk on their hind legs. They shuffle at best with their crotch very low to the ground. This is not even a trained circus bear. GET REAL!

Actually, bears can & do walk on their hind legs, but not for any great distance.

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I have to agree with Sebastian. The video is either a guy in a suit or the real thing. I interpreted the 'loss of balance' as a forward lean from the waist and that perhaps the 'Sasquatch' was thinking of trying to hide but then decided it better to retreat. Regardless, this bend at the waist followed by a straightening action looks much more human than it does bear. I doubt that a bear's physiology would allow it to bend at the waist and then stand erect without going down on all fours between. Also, the arms do look like arms and not front legs.

[Deleted]

I'm curious what people think of the notion that sasquatch sightings can be explained as misidentified bears.
The difference between the two is apparent when seen side by side as in John Bindernagel's illustration. The sasquatch's lack of a snout in profile and upright stature are the strongest differences to me.
www.bigfootbiologist.org/page10.html
A few years ago I guided a group of young people from Saskatoon down the lower White River to where it emptys into the Kootenay by raft. One reason that I chose this particular trip is the remoteness of this stretch of river. There is a road running parrallel to the river but it is only close to the river at the beginning and end of the trip. Hiking to, or along the river would be extremely difficult due to the topography and thick forest. People seldom paddle any craft down this section either so animals are accustomed to having the valley to themselves. This trip always yields a lot of animal sightings and before we started I guaranteed the group that we would see a moose.
Before reaching the half-way point we had seen our moose as well as bald eagles and a mountain goat with kids. One woman commented that she hoped we would see a bear because she had never seen one before.
When we stopped for a lunch break she got her wish. Ironically she was the first to spot the grizzly which was about 20 meters up the opposite bank across from us. She excitedly shouted "Bear"!
I've thought about this incident recently with the topic of Sasquatch in mind partly due to recent sasquatch reports in the White R., Whiteswan L. area. I replay the bear sighting in my mind and I wonder 'What if this woman, who admitted she had never seen a bear before, had instead seen a sasquatch walking through those pines. Would she have still shouted 'bear'?'
Personally I think she would have shouted something like 'What the h*** is that?'
This bear was walking along on all fours. Which raises my next question. How common is it that bears are seen on their hind legs? Skeptics talk as if bears are walking around the forest and crossing highways on their back legs all the time. I have seen literally dozens of bears in my life and I can't recall seeing even one of them rear up for even a second.
It's obvious that the users of this forum are familiar with the outdoors and have seen a lot of wildlife so: who has seen bear on their hind legs? how many have you seen do this and for how long?

muchalothairy (keith)

[bushape]

LMAO, GET REAL?

Ive come upon literally hundreds of bears over the years and simply in my opinion this footage is that of one.

[sebastian]

More Ely video:
youtube.com/watch?v=sOFsL2BxCJI