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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2005 0:10:32 GMT -5
I was reading some old Alaska reports from John Green's case files that Bobbie Short has posted on her site here: www.bigfootencounters.com/sbs/oldalaska.htmAfter reading that list of old reports (and a few more from other sources), I got to wondering if Sasquatch could be dangerous or even deadly if a person stumbled upon one of the beasts in a bad mood or protecting its young. I'd certainly like to hear your thoughts on the possibility of Sasquatch being dangerous, or not being dangerous. Bushman
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Post by lookoutman7 on Oct 9, 2005 10:47:22 GMT -5
The Sasquatch is a wild animal when the day is done. It has instincts for survival - may well include, getting rid of people happening by a Sasquatch lair, their young, gathered food supply. What would a pregnant female Sasquatch think of us staggering into the place of her rest?
In our cases, the Sasquatch fled - but then, there wasn't much on the line at the moment to protect - other than themselves. The situation of encountering the creature at key times could be dangerous.
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Post by thomassteenburg on Oct 9, 2005 19:00:30 GMT -5
A number of people disappear each year in wilderness areas in B.C. and Alberta. And I have the feeling if you ran into a hostile sasquatch you would tend to disappear. Though I don't think they go out their way to attack people, but like any other wild powerful animal it should be treated with caution. Thomas steenburg
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Post by Sean V. on Nov 14, 2005 2:36:43 GMT -5
I did a small personal study a while ago, going through all the known reports of hostile/ aggressive behavior.
The conclusion I came to is: Sasquatch has the ability & opportunity to be dangerous, just like any other wild animal. But from the amount of reports known, it is shown that dangerous encounters are rare and are usually provoked by the human somehow. There are very few reports where the creature has, from the start, shown hostility.
So is Sasquatch dangerous? Yes. But so is crossing the street during rush hour traffic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2006 0:10:22 GMT -5
I really suspect that the Sasquatch is far more intelligent than we have been giving it credit for. Although this intelligence is geared to survival. It could happen that a specimen would deliberately attack a human with the intent to harm or kill given unusual circumstances.
However, the species seems to have a common understanding amongst themselves that attacking or harming human beings is not to be done. They throw rocks, yell and scream, toss tree limbs, bluff charge and use other intimidating behavior. It seems they know that any physical attack would bring down upon them a massive human response.
They're certainly capable of harming humans but they don't. They're curious and come close either to learn about us or intimidate us. When discovered they usually just walk off or disappear back into the undergrowth.
I would hazard a guess that they know this is the key to their survival. The less seen or known by humans the better for them. They're very good at it having stayed undiscovered for more than half a century and with very quality photos of them.
This will change with our growing population and hi tech equipment. The equipment nullifies their inherent evlotionary advantages such as night vision. It's only a matter of time before we either get a body or close-up pics of a specimen.
To some extent this will be a sad day for researchers because most of the mystery will be gone. However it will open the door for scientific discovery and this species does have a great deal to teach us about survival and primate behavior. My best to all,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2006 15:36:35 GMT -5
I agree with SFS. This is a wild animal we are chasing here. The posturing airforce47 is describing is indicative of an predator protecting their territory. WE (Homo sapien sapiens) ARE the top of the food chain....other large predators know it and aviod contact. ANY animal is dangerous if provoked. This one in particular due to it's speed, power and high animal intelligence. I do agree with '47 in that they are probably more intelligent than the average large predator...but I believe that their avoidence of humans is due to the fact that every time they even posture, scream, whatever, a group of us "small hairless apes" invade their territory trying to find them. Economy of energy would lend one to believe that it simply easier to escape than fight. Plus, I think they recognize collectively that homo sapiens are simply more trouble than they are worth and the cost vs benefit is too great... However, it is interesting to note how many people over the years have gone missing in the Alberta/BC region that is chalked up to ANYTHING but sasquatch. If THAT were proved (that sas is responsible), I feel that the Wetern Canadaian provginces would become the largest shooting range in North America and make an already illusive creature that much harder to catch. My 2 cents is all..... Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2008 22:31:09 GMT -5
My personal opinion is to agree. Ofcourse this creature is dangerous. Much as any other part of the animal kingdom, the Sasquatch would have a built in fight or flight instinct. If it were deemed the best choice at the time to an animal of similar power, such as another primate; A human could find one's self in a tough situation. I served with the armed forces as an Infantry soldier, I have grown up in BC, camping, hunting, survival, hiking, swimming, have always been tought to me growing up. I have far from any serious experience in dealing with sasquatch, but I am a firm believer in having a personal defense weapon in the need of attack by a predator or other animal in a bad scenario. The disappearances would/could suggest the sasquatch, but, there are plenty of other animals out there that can hurt you. Most often I find that people who go out into the mountains unprepared can do themselves more damage than anything else could. Remember, we live in one of the few places in the world where if you walk in the wrong direction, you can go hundreds of km's without seeing another human. Anything is possible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2008 4:44:49 GMT -5
When this subject comes up no one ever mentions cannibalism. Those that argue the Sasquatch are a type of animal should follow thier own reasoning all the way through.We are like a herd of antelopes wondering if the lions are friendly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2008 5:51:26 GMT -5
I don't think I would suggest that sasquatch eats its own kind. Apart from humans, primates are not typically known for this. There are a few types of monkeys that wil kill at eat other monkeys. I am not certain, but I believe that chimpanzees have been known to kill and eat monkeys who invade their territory, but (unless I'm wrong) I dont believe other great apes take up this trait. What evidence/reasoning do you have to support or suggest this idea? I can only assume that you are implying the sasquatch eats man, many of us believe the creature to be omnivorous, and typically an opperatunist (sorry about spelling) but I have never come across this theory before. I think that any powerful animal would/could be dangerous if it felt threatened, but to suggest that the sasquatch is out to hunt and feast upon humans, or even other sasquatch? Anyone here with more knowledge than I care to elaborate? The native amerinds have folklore that is exagerated into similar ideas depending on which band/tribe you speak with. Seriously though, if it were hunting humans in the bush, would it be so elusive and shy?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2008 5:57:17 GMT -5
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Post by rastaman on Aug 7, 2008 10:42:26 GMT -5
Well there sure are no substantiated instances of Sasquatch ever attacking people , only anecdotal, but black bears seem to have less and less fear of us humans these days. Most of the bear/human encounters, however, are caused by our own inaction in removing the attractants around our homes that most appeal to bears. news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/abc/home/contentposting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V3&showbyline=True&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20080806%2fBC_bear_attack_080806Bear attacks Coquitlam woman in her garden. A Coquitlam, B.C. woman is in hospital after she was mauled by a bear in her own front yard. Blood is seen on the front steps of a Coquitlam, B.C., home after a woman was attacked by a black bear on Wednesday, Aug. 6, 2008. Witnesses say the woman, Katy Yin, could have died were it not for neighbours who frightened the 250-pound cinnamon-coloured black bear away by screaming and throwing rocks. "They threw rocks to try shooing it away," said neighbour Amy Lo. "Her scalp was torn, torn on the side. She was all covered in blood." Blood covered the driveway and Yin had been driven back to her front door by the bear which bit her several times. When the RCMP arrived, they say they had no choice but to destroy the bear. "As a result of the grievous bodily harm, fear of death, the officers had to use lethal force," said Cpl. Tony S. Farahbakshian of the Coquitlam RCMP. Coquitlam is a suburb of Vancouver that backs onto the mountains, and bear sightings here are very common. Neighbours thought they were in no danger The bear was photographed minutes before the attack by a neighbour a few doors down, said a man who gave his name as Roy. The neighbours didn't think they were in any danger, he said. "My wife said, 'The bear is back.' So we snapped a few pics and didn't think anything of it until we heard the sirens and heard a lady had been mauled down the street from us," he said. Yin is in stable condition at Royal Columbian Hospital with one of her two teenage daughters at her bedside. Neighbours say she was doing yard work, because she'd recently put the home up for sale. The family has lived there for at least six years. Drake Stephens, the Bear Aware co-ordinator here, says he's concerned people are leaving too many bear 'attractants' around. The victim does have a fresh water supply in the form of a fountain, peanuts scattered around, and a bird feeder full of seed which may have been factors in the attack. The attack came as no surprise to some of the victim's neighbours. They've seen bears in the area recently and have called conservation officers -- but they say a dog might be better. Joanne Rutkowski's family has Tofik, a golden doodle. That dog scared off a bear when the family met him hiking on the Westwood Plateau on Sunday. "If it wasn't for him, we're not sure we'd be able to chase the bear away," said Rutkowski. What to do when confronted by a black bear If you come face-to-face with a black bear, here's what to do: Face the bear calmly Talk to the bear Back away slowly If the animal attacks, fight with all your might Since 1986, 71 people in B.C. have been injured in black bear attacks. In those incidents, eight people have been killed. With reports from CTV British Columbia's Peter Grainger, Sarah Galashan and Shannon Paterson
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Post by vilnoori on Aug 7, 2008 10:45:50 GMT -5
Chimps not only eat monkeys that stray into their own territory, they actively hunt monkeys and other prey, acting with coordination. When they catch one they share out the meat, which they eat and enjoy with relish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2008 13:24:33 GMT -5
Chimps will kill other chimps,however that has more to do with politics than anything else.Has anyone noticed when sightings involving family groups and the witness has been able to identify gender, does the female position herself between the male and her young?
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Post by Sean V. on Oct 10, 2008 22:06:55 GMT -5
Well there sure are no substantiated instances of Sasquatch ever attacking people , only anecdotal But there are several reports where the creature displays predatory behavior, going beyond posturing and territoriality. If a person was in a situation like that, and had no means of a quick escape or defense, I can believe that the creature would attack. The possible reasons for it could be that the creature is not able to hunt effectively and goes for any prey possible. Perhaps it has contracted some sort of disease that is causing it to do things/take chances it normally wouldn't do. Or if these creatures are as smart as some think, it may be that an unfortunate person just happened to run across a mentally disturbed creature. I recall someone saying: That if Sasquatch is dangerous, then its doubtful that anyone would survive to report it. Or something to that effect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2008 23:29:59 GMT -5
Hi Sean I recall the Roosevelt story where it was suspected that a "sasquatch" either threw a trapper into a tree or twisted/broke his neck...then there's the story of the 4 dogs down in Bluff creek, the reporter brought a tracker who let his dogs loose on the trail of some tracks, they were never seen again, however, there was a story that someone later came apon the remains of four dogs "ripped apart". For the most part, from what i've read, the creature sometimes demonstrates curiosity and almost always turns and looks and walks away...as far away from humans, i bet, as possible. Thomas Steenburg suggests that if you were the victim of a sasquatch with attitude, nobody would be the wiser and some people claim that's where all the "missing" folks go...er...pickton comes to mind as well...ack! I had the opportunity to speak to the son in law of one of the "boys" that lived on the farm at Ruby Creek way back when and he describes a Sasquatch gone mad when he tasted the fish and found it salted! He strew fish all over the place. I kind of got the visual of a temper tantrum - not something i'd want to get in the middle of! And finally, i keep thinking of the stories passed down by the indians. One of which is that Sasquatch eats indians. "They leave white people alone" but carried off an indian out hunting, leaving his pajamas on the beach by a lake. Just some food for thought! Chrissie
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