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Sasquatch Eye Shine Feb 1, 2006 1:33:58 GMT -5

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Post by sebastian on Feb 1, 2006 1:33:58 GMT -5

Hi,
I've just talked a co-worker earlier tonight. He claimed that in 1976 he saw an animal which fit the description of a Sasquatch. It happened in around 2:00am on Duffy Lake Road (when it was still a dirt road). He and his girl friend was driving a truck with only one headlight. Half way up, the other headlight burnt out too. So, they had to stop and pull aside. They stepped out their truck and looked around. He saw a big and dark shadow just off the road. It was running or walking fast just inside the bush. He first thought that it was a standing bear, but then realized it was walking on two legs. It was hairy, had a flat face, and it was big. It was moving around them and stopped. At one point he saw its head and he said that it was covered with hair. Never got a good look at its face, he added that its eyes shone yellow. They both got scared and went straight back into their truck.

Now, is yellow the common colour of Sasquatch eye shine reported? What about red (not glowing)? I think that Thomas has a report of bluish green (Coalmont). That's not a very common colour reported. Any comment?

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Sasquatch Eye Shine Feb 1, 2006 12:17:07 GMT -5

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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2006 12:17:07 GMT -5

Hi Sebastian,

Thanks for the excellent report.

Here is some information I gathered off the Internet by using the search term "Sasquatch eyeshine" on Google. It believe the results yield a wide variety of colors reported by witnesses having had possible sasquatch encounters.

Some extremely interesting information regarding the great apes and eyeshine on the "Eye Shine of Bigfoot and Other Animals" page at the link below:

Source: unifiedworlds.com/eyeshine.htm

Sasquatch eyeshine

ANIMALS EYES SHINE THESE COLORS:
(taken from many online sources/charts and also personal eyewitness testimonies)

ALLIGATORS: RED
BEARS: BRIGHT GREENISH-GOLD TO WHITE
CATS WITH GREEN/YELLOW EYES: GREEN
CATS WITH BLUE EYES: RED
COUGAR: GREENISH GOLD
COWS: YELLOW/RED
COYOTE: GREENISH-GOLD
DEER: WHITE/YELLOW/RED
DOGS: GREEN/BLUE/YELLOW
FOXES: BLUE/RED
HORSES: WHITE
MOOSE: ORANGE/GREEN/YELLOW/WHITE
OPOSSUMS: PINK
OWLS: RED
PRAIRIE DOG: ORANGE
RABBITS: ORANGE/RED
RACOON: GREEN/WHITE
RATS: ORANGE/RED
SHEEP: ORANGE
WHITE-TAILED DEER: SILVER-WHITE
WOLVES: GREENISH-ORANGE

Eye Shine of Bigfoot and Other Animals
Source: unifiedworlds.com/eyeshine.htm

To aid us in our surveillance, we also used a pair of night vision goggles, but despite a full moon and the unit’s infrared spotlight, viewing into the shadows wasn’t very productive because of the jumble created by branches and snags. A four celled Mag-Lite was also used to pan suspected areas and at about 04:00 MDT red eye-shine was detected. The eye-shine appeared as two
parallel, reddish pinpoints which winked off and on at about the same visible plane as the base, and to the side of, a lone tree growing on the southwest rim of a small swale. The swale began about 15 yards north of the horse trailer and was approximately 25 yards in diameter. A person of average height standing in it would be unable to see over the rim and into our campsite. The eye-shine’s color was consistent with the red or orange reported by Grover Krantz ("Big Foot-Prints", 1992), while the color of the eye-shine cast by the horses was lime green. Despite a full moon and clear meteorological conditions, no grazing elk or other nocturnal animals were observed at any time during the night. (An absence of browsing deer and nocturnal animals was previously reported by me in my report of the alleged sasquatch screams and response calls that I heard near Leadville, CO in October 1994.) The meteorological conditions then were basically the same as on the morning of 7 August 1998. Moonset occurred at about 05:30 MDT.

Source: www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=1350

The witness knows that his report is only anecdotal, and there will be many who will not believe it, but he is unperturbed. In his own words, he knows what he saw. Further, he was in awe and struck by the sheer size of the creature and how it easily cleared the barbed wire fence before walking down the fence line. The way that the animal looked at the witness frightened him. He did remember an eye shine, and described it as a “photo eye shine.” The witness went on to further describe the creature as being dark in color, and probably a “dark brown.” The head seemed to be somewhat crested.

Source: www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=9137

At roughly the halfway mark, behind and from his left flank at approximately the 8 o’clock position, Colyer heard what he described as a “large, loud animal of some sort” within twenty feet of him crash toward him through the dense undergrowth. Colyer instantly turned to face whatever it was that was charging him, but he could not visually acquire the unknown entity through his 3rd generation night vision. Instinctively, as it drew closer (within ten yards) and still unable to see it, Colyer yelled at the charger, thinking it was probably a large wild hog. The unknown animal briefly stopped as if stunned for a second and then slowly retreated in the direction from which it came. It was then, still using his night vision and IR booster, that Colyer saw a flash of two green eyes through the immensely thick vegetation.

Source: www.texasbigfoot.com/02_405.html

She was looking at the sand bar and pond area and I was looking at the wooded area beside me. 15 minutes later something caught my attention. I saw something like an eye shine on my side (wooded area). I kept thinking to myself what is that? It wasn't there before. I looked to see if xxxxx had her vehicle on that maybe the lights from inside was reflecting. The vehicle was not on. I was thinking maybe there's
a small animal up on a limb or something, but from my angle I couldn't see a limb. What I saw was oval shaped, greenish color, bigger than a humans eye.
Source: www.gcbro.com/LAtangi002.html

Around 11:30pm Erich Lang spotted a tree branch moving, around 20-35 feet into the forest. When checked with nightvision, a large hair covered arm was spotted grasping the tree branch, the arm quickly disappeared when the IR spotlight was directed towards it. Around 12:00 am, Sean Viala spotted eyeshine in the forest, the eyeshine was around 6-6.3 feet off of the ground, a low growl was heard also. The eyeshine started to move away when it was stared at, but not before a glimpse of a cone-like shaped head was spotted. Around 12:30am, XXXX XXXXXX was walking into the forest without the aid of nightvision. He was being directed by Sean Viala, who was scanning the woods with an IR monocular, when suddenly a good sized object was hurled out of the forest. The object landed somewhere between XXXX XXXXXX & Sean Viala, but it was closer to XXXX' location.

Source: www.freewebs.com/casr/investigations.htm

EVENT/ENCOUNTER: (taken directly from report form) WAS SITTING BY THE FIRE AT THE COTTAGE. WAS HEARING ROUGH NOISES IN THE WOODS FOR SOME TIME. WENT IN THE BOAT AND GRABBED THE 500,000 HAND HELD SPOT LIGHT AND WALKED TOWARDS THE WOODS. I SHINED IT AND SEEN THESE EYES GLOWING LIKE A DEERS WOULD, BUT THESE WERE A GREENISH YELLOW AND AT SOME TIMES THEY WHERE GOLDEN LOOKING. I WENT BACK TO THE COTTAGE AND YELLED FOR MY DAD. I SAID YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS THING. HE WALKED BACK WITH ME AND WE SHINED IT IN THE SAME SPOT. WE COULDNT BELIEVE WHAT WE WHERE LOOKING AT. WE ONLY SAW THE UPPER BODY OF THIS THING. WE BOTH SAID IT LOOKED LIKE... *temporarily removed - will appear later / see mike's notes for explanation*. FROM THE ANGLE WE WERE AT IT LOOKED AS IF IT STOOD 7-8 FEET.

Source: home.earthlink.net/~bigfoot46555/id41.html

Edited to add this excellent piece on human eyeshine seen in some photographs and what causes it:

www.rain.org/~mkummel/stumpers/20oct00a.html

Also the following article on bigfoot eyeshine:

"Eye Shine" Why and How

In the last few months there have been several posts on various e-mail based discussion groups about the phenomenon called "eye shine". This is the reflective nature of light off of some animal's eyes. Although, at first it may not seem a subject of Hominology, when put in the contexts of reports of Bigfoot (or similar creatures) exhibiting this condition, then the subject does have a place. These reports, although they do occur, are not one of the most common occurrences. But, what causes this condition of "eye shine", and why does it occur, and what correlation could it have to the area of Hominology?

Before an understanding of the cause and reason for the "eye shine" condition, an overview of the function and anatomy of the eye is needed. For the sake of simplicity, the discussion at hand will deal with mammalian eye make up, as although other animal groups do have a similar anatomy there are some differences. Even in mammals there are slight differences in the eye makeup, many on a chemical or cellular level. Chief among these differences is the ability to see color and the ability to see in low light. To understand the differences it is important to understand how the human eye works, and from that a derivative can be made to other mammalian species.

The eye itself is composed of various components. The wall of the eye is made up of three different areas, the sclera, the cornea and the canals of Schlemm. Each has a different purpose. The sclera is the white membrane that keeps the eye its shape, it in turn is connected to a series of muscles that allow for the movement of the eye. These muscles being the medial rectus, inferior rectus, lateral rectus, inferior oblique, superior oblique and superior rectus. The cornea is the component at the front of the eye that is usually colorless and transparent, and it is through this that light waves pass. The canals of Schlemm offer a series of small sinuses to drain fluid from behind the cornea.

The middle layer of the eye is made up as well of various components, known as the uvea when spoken of as a group. Within this collective are the components of the uvea, the choroid, ciliary body and the iris. The ciliary body is made up of a muscle that aids in the function of the lens of the eye. The choroid acts as a blood supplier to other areas of the eye as well as preventing the reflection of light inside the eye with the help of pigmented granules. The iris in turn is attached to the ciliary body and contains the pupil. The pupil is but an opening in the eye itself that allows for light to enter the eye, and this light is controlled by the musculature of the iris. The iris is also the portion of the eye that is colored. This coloration is what gives us blue eyes, grey eyes and every other shade imaginable due to pigmentation. The deciding factor of eye coloration then relies on the individuals genetic makeup, this affects the two layers of the iris that create the coloration. The rear layer contains a blue pigment, while the front layer contains either no pigmentation of black pigmentation, called melanin. Depending on the level of melanin the eye color varies. If no melanin is present then the eyes are blue. If no pigmentation appears in either layer, than an albino condition of pink is present.

The innermost area of the eye is made of the retina. It is made of very specialized cells called receptor cells. These receptor cells come in two different forms, rods and cones. The fibers of these receptor cells form further back in the eye as the optic nerve that is crucial to the brains recognition of an image. The receptor cells each serve a specialized purpose in the area of sight. Rods are cylindrical in nature. Within the rod is a portion that contains a photosensitive chemical known as rhodopsin that aids in the filtering of low level lights. The cones are more conical in shape and are crucial for color recognition and intense light filtration. There are currently three forms of cones known, each unique due to a specialized photochemical pigment, these being erythrolabe, chlorolabe and cyanolabe. When light passes through the components of the eye, these rod and cone photoreceptors are stimulated and the information is relayed to the brain to form the image seen.

Now, to understand how the eye recognizes light and hence images, and to lead to why "eye shine" occurs, the physics of vision need to be looked at. Light is foremost a form of energy, radiant energy, As light travels from one source to another in can be refracted, that is bent. The refraction bends the light at a different angle. This refraction is important in the ability to see, as the curvature of the eye is such that a refraction of the light allows the light to be aimed into the retina, although some light will be lost in the process. In doing so the image seen is inverted and compacted, similar to what occurs when a picture is reflected in a mirror. These properties of light refraction apply both in bright light, like daytime, as well as dark light, like nighttime, as well as intermediate lighting such as the conditions at dawn and dusk.

In the typical eye, that has no added component than stated prior, an image and image recognition is lessened as light levels drop. Try walking into a room with no lights on from a room with all the lights on. For a short time everything will be dark and out of focus. This is called nigh-blindness and is caused by the eye not getting enough light. However, in a short spell (though in some people it does not due to vitamin deficiencies) limited image recognition will return, a process called dark adaptation. Within the photoreceptor called the rod, the chemical rhodopsin is the cause of dark adaptation. In bright light this chemical is damaged, but when the light is lowered the chemical reforms. Vitamin A allows for this to occur, and if this vitamin is diminished the return of vision in the dark is slower. The opposite occurs when going from a dark room to a lit one.

Now, in a species that lives a nocturnal existence or partial nocturnal existence the ability to recognize images as prey, predator and safety is essential. To allow for more light, certain species have adapted another component in the eye, it is located on the retina and is called the tapetum lucidum. This tapetum essentially allows for a doubling of the light. With the aid of a white mirror like substance called guanine, light passing through the retina is bounced back, allowing for two passes of the light. This bounce back of the tapetum lucidum is what appears as the "eye shine" in these animal species.

In primates the prosimians (primitive primates such as the lemur and aye-aye) exhibit such a feature as the tapetum lucidum. While the great apes do not. Likewise many other animal species in far ranging groups show this characteristic, to most it will be most familiar in a household pet like the cat. Even humans, who do not have this tapetum, do possess a limited "eye shine" that can be seen in red eye images in some photographs.

Now the question of whether or not such a creature as Bigfoot, if it does in fact exist, could see in color comes up at times as well. The problem here is that color recognition comes down to chemical properties in the eye as well as the presence of the photoreceptor cones. Additionally all mammals that posses color vision have a small indent on the retina called the fovea in which these cones are organized.

As was mentioned previously the cones are made of three distinctively different types of pigments, erythrolabe, chlorolabe and cyanolabe. Each it has been thought correlates to a color blue, green or red. These pigments react through chemical functions and create the color vision people see. The lack or inhibition of one or more of these pigmentation cones causes the various forms of color blindness. The strength of the light also plays a part in the color recognition, for example a light wavelength of 5000 to 5500 angstroms generates a green color, while one of 6750 to 7000 creates the red color. Factored in as well are the elements of hue, brightness and saturation that enhance or diminish the intensity of color depending on the viewing conditions and distances.

The color vision ability can be drawn to one thing, if a fovea is present than the likelihood of color vision to some extent is also present. This is not a hard and fast rule, but a good guide. For example the great apes posses a fovea, and in al likelihood have a form of color vision, while the douroucouli (Aotus trivirgatus) or the night monkey from South America does not have a fovea (or any cones for that matter) and so cannot posses color vision.

That is the crucial point. Color vision is much more specialized for a daytime existence, for at night the ability to see color is minimized due to insufficient light. To adapt to the insufficient light some species have the tapetum lucidum to allow for enhancement of the light. Despite this adaptation, many of these species also adapt enhanced hearing and smell as well as varied vision (like enlarged eyes and varied positions of the eyes on the head).

As for a connection to Hominology subjects, at this time, no steadfast attribute can be applied. It can be fairly safe to say that if Bigfoot exists it is a form of primate (this includes the possibility of a relic humanoid), and to acquire this tapetum would make it an even more amazing discovery indeed. However, the possibility of color vision is more likely to occur. If humans and great apes possess color vision, to some extent, but do not posses a tapetum lucidum, and it is extracted that Bigfoot is a type of primate akin to a great ape or human, then the correlation to these primates can be loosely made.

The ultimate answer though as to what kind of vision these creatures may have cannot be described as of yet. A specimen would be needed, and to identify the vision capabilities it would have to be a relatively new specimen with the eyes intact, as the information needed cannot be preserved in a skull, only on the living tissue.

Sources:

Cornett, Frederick and Gratz, Pauline, Modern Human Physiology, Holt, Rinehart and Winston, New York, 1982

Hickman, Cleveland, Integrated Principles of Zoology, C.V. Mosby Company, St. Louis, 1955

Lehrman, Robert, Physics the Easy Way 2nd Edition, Barron's, Hauppauge (New York), 1990

Mortimer, Charles, Chemistry, A Conceptual Approach, Reinhold Book Corp., New York, 1968

Napier. J.R., and Napier, P.H., The Natural History of the Primates, MIT Press, Cambridge (Massachusetts), 1997

Taffel, Alexander, Physics, its Methods and Meanings 5th Edition, Allyn and Bacon Inc., Newton (Massachusetts), 1986

Villee, Claude, Walker, Warren, and Barnes, Robert, General Zoology 4th Edition, W.B. Saunders Company, Philadelphia, 1973

Source: www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/5103/wildman/eye.htm

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Sasquatch Eye Shine Feb 3, 2006 5:15:40 GMT -5

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Post by Guest on Feb 3, 2006 5:15:40 GMT -5

Hello,

I am the co-worker, that Sebastian is speaking of.

In 1976, I was driving the Duffy Lake/Pemberton/Whistler road with my girlfriend.

This was before it was paved, it was gravel in those days, and quite rugged.

We were both in our very early 20's and my car was a 1967 Cutlass Supreme.

My gal was getting kind of loaded, drinking beers on our road trip, and it was kinda bumpy.

It was the middle of the night, no moon, and very dark.

Anyway, we were driving along, bumpity bump, over the potholes and my headlights died.

Just died.

No headlights, no dash lights, nothing.

I had to pull over to the shoulder cuz it was pitch black.

I got out, popped the hood, to look at the wires or whatever.

My gal-friend went off to the left side of the road to take a pee.

Im tapping the headlights and fiddling with the wires to try and get the headlights working, when I heard a noise just off the road, in the brush.

I pulled my head out from under the hood, and walked over to look out to the side of the road the noise was.

There was an 'animal', running along the shoulder in the brush, about 30 feet off the road, running fast.
Parallell to the road.

It was running upright, at a very good clip, on it's hind legs.

It was large (larger than a human), and fast.

Hairy, flat face.
Muscular.
Thought it might be a bear.
But damn, it sure didn't look like a bear.

Freaked me right out.

The thing was running along effortlessly, through brush, around the boulders, and other roadside debris.

It turned and stared right at me, as it passed, and it's eyes glowed in the dark, a very pale yellow luminous effect.

As it passed by me , (it seemed scared of me, although I was nutstin' myself), it veered off it's path and ran off into the bush.

I immediatley started yelling to my gal friend, found her, asked her if she had "seen that"?
She said no. She was on the other side of the road.

We both got back in the car, and stayed there untill somebody else drove by (with headlights), and we were able to follow them out of the bush.

I can remember to this day how that thing so effortlessly ran along through the brush, upright.
I keep telling myself how it must've been a bear, but wow, it sure didn't look like a bear.

It didn't make any noise, other than the rustle of the brush it was running through.

For it's size, (like I said, it was bigger than a human, much bulkier) it moved quite gracefully and quickly through the
terrain.

A very spooky night.

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Sasquatch Eye Shine Mar 16, 2006 12:17:04 GMT -5

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Post by Gerry on Mar 16, 2006 12:17:04 GMT -5

Er...ah...questions...!
You say this occurred at 2:00 a.m?
No moon?
Very dark?

Then you say...

"I got out, popped the hood, to look at the wires or whatever."

"There was an 'animal', running along the shoulder in the brush, about 30 feet off the road."

Then....

"Hairy, flat face.
Muscular.
Thought it might be a bear.
But damn, it sure didn't look like a bear."

That is a lot to see in the pitch dark. I have spent an odd night walking lonely country roads and when it is moonless, it is dark..so dark you can hardly make out which direction the road is going..let alone what is happening under the hood of a car...or even 30 ft away.

Am I missing something here?

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Post by Gerry on Mar 16, 2006 12:17:04 GMT -5